Masturbation

[James15]

:roll:

 

[Green Gaia]

Ummm, no and what does it have to do with this topic? Please keep personal questions to Private Messages. Thanks

 

[James15]

Sorry... Is masturbation becoming a habit in your case?

 

[Green Gaia]

Sorry... Is masturbation becoming a habit in your case?

LMAO! Well, no I wouldn't say it's a habit, but I do find it helps me relax sometimes if my partner isn't available to have relations with, it's great for cramps too.

 

[James15]

How can you be aroused if you'r not thinking about some impure thoughts?

 

[Green Gaia]

Define impure thought.

 

[James15]

Wait...what makes you arouse?

 

[Green Gaia]

That's a personal question and not appropriate to ask.

 

[James15]

One way or another, it is hard for you to escape from it because you are hooked with it. I ask you, can you live without it?

 

[Green Gaia]

Of course I can live without it lol.

 

[James15]

 

[James15]

Are you an atheist?

 

[Green Gaia]

No, I'm not an atheist, but I don't see what that has to do with the issue of masturbation.

 

[Death]

Ejaculation
Prostate Cancer Awareness Week (pcaw.org) has compiled information on the issue of.masturbation to prevent prostate enlargement.


Frequent Ejaculation Won't Prevent Prostate Enlargement


Frequent Ejaculation Won't Prevent Prostate Enlargement (3/14/03)
"Use it or lose it" may be good advice when it comes to keeping mental skills sharp and staying in shape, but researchers say it doesn't apply to certain aspects of male anatomy. In fact, a new study debunks the myth that frequent ejaculation can ward off health problems such as prostate enlargement.

Researchers say there's a common myth that "exercising" the prostate might somehow prevent prostate problems. But their study shows no evidence that frequent sexual activity prevents prostate enlargement.

Non-cancerous prostate enlargement, known as benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), is a common problem among older men and can cause symptoms such as difficulty urinating, frequent urination, and weak urine stream. Although this condition is not usually dangerous, if severe and untreated it can lead to kidney problems.

So it doesn't "prevent it" in non-cancerous prostate enlargement, well whoop de doo. Does abstinence? No.

21:00 06 April 04

NewScientist.com news service


Frequent sexual intercourse and masturbation protects men against a common form of cancer, suggests the largest study of the issue to date yet.

The US study, which followed nearly 30,000 men over eight years, showed that those that ejaculated most frequently were significantly less likely to get prostate cancer. The results back the findings of a smaller Australian study revealed by New Scientist in July 2003 that asserted that masturbation was good for men.

In the US study, the group with the highest lifetime average of ejaculation - 21 times per month - were a third less likely to develop the cancer than the reference group, who ejaculated four to seven times a month.

Michael Leitzmann, at the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland, and colleagues set out to test a long-held theory that suggested the opposite - that a higher ejaculation rate raises the risk of prostate cancer. "The good news is it is not related to an increased risk," he told New Scientist. In fact, it "may be associated with a lower risk."

"It goes a long way to confirm the findings from our recent case-control study," says Graham Giles, who led the Australian study. He praises the study's large size - including about 1500 cases of prostate cancer.

Furthermore, it was the first to begin by following thousands of healthy men. This rules out some of the biases which might be introduced by asking men diagnosed with prostate cancer to recall their sexual behaviour retrospectively.


Every second day

At the start of the study, the men filled in a history of their ejaculation frequency and then filled in further questionnaires every two years.

Men of different ages varied in how often they ejaculated, so the team used a lifetime average for comparisons. Compared to the reference group who ejaculated four to seven times a month, "each increase of three ejaculations per week was associated with a 15 per cent decrease in the risk of prostate cancer", says Leitzmann.

"More than 12 ejaculations per month would start conferring the benefit - on average every second day or so," he says.

However, whilst the findings are statistically significant, Leitzmann remains cautious. "I don't believe at this point our research would warrant suggesting men should alter their sexual behaviour in order to modify their risk."

A further caveat is that the benefit of ejaculation was less clear in relation to the most dangerous, metastasising form of prostate cancer, compared to the organ-confined or slow-growing types.


Clear out

Leitzmann and Giles both agree that there are biologically plausible ways that ejaculating frequently might prevent prostate cancer.

"Increased ejaculation may allow the prostate gland to clear itself of carcinogens or of materials that form a substrate for the development of carcinogens," Giles told New Scientist.

Another theory is that frequent drainage of prostate fluid stops tiny crystalloid microcalcifications - which have been associated with prostate cancer - from forming in the prostate duct, says Leitzmann.

Giles notes that neither study examines ejaculation during the teenage years - which may be a crucial factor. But he says: "Although much more research remains to be done, the take home message is that ejaculation is not harmful, and very probably protective of prostatic health - and it feels good!"

Journal reference: Journal of the American Medical Association (vol 291, p 1578)

So it DOES help against prostate cancer, which i notice you completely ignored in favour of "noncancerous prostate enlargement". Which you have no evidence for non-masturbation helping out in any way shape or form.

One way or another, it is hard for you to escape from it because you are hooked with it. I ask you, can you live without it?

If I didn't do it, my body would on it's own, they're called wet dreams. Your body constantly produces sperm, day and night, and they build up.

How can you be aroused if you'r not thinking about some impure thoughts?

How/why is sex impure?

You've still not given a reason why it's bad other than you think it is.

 

[James15]

 

[Green Gaia]

That is the reason why you are thinking that way....there is no sense of good and bad in you...

???? Explain.

 

[James15]

Masturbation is a waste of seed...

 

[Green Gaia]

Masturbation is a waste of seed...

:roll: Yes, yes we've heard that, but you've yet to explain why it is and why it is wrong. And what is different in losing "seed" in a wet dream and masturbating. It's not like there isn't enough to go around in a normal male. And that doesn't address the issue at all with women...

BTW, how old are you James?

 

[Death]

That is the reason why you are thinking that way....there is no sense of good and bad in you...

Wrong, that's a hasty generalisation, i merely disagree with you about masturbation. This is just an ad hominem fallacy on your part.

Masturbation is a waste of seed...

You don't need it all, James. :roll:

 

[Isis]

Ever heard of the pharse "my body's a temple, now get on your knees and prey?"
(I appologise for any insult that might have brought, but it's funny to me)

As a proud owner of a vibrator, I see absolutly nothing wrong with masturbation female or male. Men continuously create sperm until after middle age, and the sperm that is 'stale' need to be expelled will be, one way or another. You can either take pleasure in the body god has given you and cleans yourself or wait until you sleep, dream abnout some attractive someone-or-other (male or female, the preferance is yours), and do it at night. There is no waste, becasue it is going to be ejaculated eventually. (If masturbation was a waste of seed people would view it as mass murder, it's not that serious, abotrion though is arguable)

Now as for female masturbation, which has no scientific cleansing or obvious health benifits, it's a psychological hug! Though I am not christian, I take pride in the body I was ordained, it is mine and I shall do with it as I see fit. If I take so much pleasure in my body that it is arousing (at times, it's not like it's a constant thing, there is a proper time and place for all of this) why not celebrate in the fact that my reprductive reactions are fully functional?! (there are some who can't and never will reack climax and that is a sad thought!)

I think it creates a posative self image to be able to be in control of such a primal instinct, and through practicing you ae preparing yourself to have an even more celebratory event when you do it with someone else you love.
Masturbation should be taken within its context, if someone is picturing somethign socially unacceptable, such as pedaphelia or necrophelia, to become aroused there is a problem and psychoanalysis should be considered. But I am even a supporter of fettishes, so long as they do not harm another in the process (again, necro and pedo phelia) why not take your human sences to the extreem and enjoy them they way they are meant to be enjoyed?