Mat Staver: The “Q” in LGBTQ Stands for Pedophilia

[Skwim]

But that doesn't preclude the reality that one can say one is a Christian and yet isn't.

So, exactly what does it take to officially call oneself a Christian after having committed a sin?

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[Kangaroo Feathers]

So, exactly what does it take to officially call oneself a Christian after having committed a sin?

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Being the right skin colour and of the right political affiliation, I'm guessing. Trump and Roy Moore? You betcha! The rest of us, I'm sure we'd get No True Scotsmanned the **** outa here.

 

[nPeace]

According to this "logic", most of the Apostles and Jesus' other followers weren't Christians because they still sinned while following him. They deserted him in his time of need out of fear. Peter denied Jesus 3 times and Jesus called him "satan" at one point (meaning he was an adversary to God's plan in what he was proposing). This idea that Christians will no longer sin after becoming Christian is unbiblical.

If that were what I was saying, I would hit myself over the head with a brick, because it would make no sense. That's not what I am saying.
See if this helps you.
*** nwtsty Matthew Study Notes—Chapter 9 ***
sinners: The Bible shows that all humans are sinners. (Ro 3:23; 5:12) Therefore, the term is used here in a more specific way, evidently referring to those who had a reputation for practicing sin, perhaps of a moral or a criminal nature. (Lu 7:37-39; 19:7, 8) The Jewish religious leaders also applied this term to Jewish or non-Jewish people who were ignorant of the Law or who failed to observe the rabbinic traditions.

 

[nPeace]

Uhuh. I'm sure the Christ who ate with prostitutes and tax collectors and taught the parable of the prodigal son appreciates your gatekeeping.

They weren't Christian. What your point?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

They weren't Christian. What your point?

They were literally following Christ, ministered to by him personally, and you say they weren't Christian? Whatever it is you think a "True Christian" is beyond me. I'm pretty sure judging others isn't something Christians are meant to do, either, but you clearly have it all figured out

 

[nPeace]

They were literally following Christ, ministered to by him personally, and you say they weren't Christian? Whatever it is you think a "True Christian" is beyond me. I'm pretty sure judging others isn't something Christians are meant to do, either, but you clearly have it all figured out

Did you say tax-collectors and prostitutes? No. They were not. Show me, where in the Bible did you see that?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Did you say tax-collectors and prostitutes? No. They were not. Show me, where in the Bible did you see that?

Seriously? Maybe you should read that whole book, rather than just cherry picking clobber passages with which to bash people you personally disapprove off.
Matthew 9:10-17, 11:19; 21:31-32 Mark 2:15-22, Luke 5:29-39

“It is the sick who need a physician, so I don’t seek the righteous but the sinners” (Mark 2:17).

 

[nPeace]

Seriously? Maybe you should read that whole book, rather than just cherry picking clobber passages with which to bash people you personally disapprove off.

Apparently the one doing the bashing here is not I.

Matthew 9:10-17, Mark 2:15-22, Luke 5:29-39

“It is the sick who need a physician, so I don’t seek the righteous but the sinners” (Mark 2:17).

Where in those scripture does it say that the prostitutes and tax-collectors were Christians?
Need help? Acts 11:26
Who were those disciples? Not sinners and tax-collectors.
Luke 8:1-3; 9:1-6; 10:1-7

Were any of these disciples former prostitutes and tax-collectors - who left their former ways, and no longer practiced these? Yes.
Please refer back to Luke 8.

Acts 19:18, 19 18 And many of those who had become believers would come and confess and report their practices openly. 19 Indeed, quite a number of those who practiced magical arts brought their books together and burned them up before everybody. . . .
Could one practice spiritism and be Christian? No.

1 Corinthians 8:7 But some, because of their former association with the idol. . .

Could one smoke cigars, frequent bars to gamble, and binge drink, fornicate with prostitutes, etc. etc. be Christian?
Let me not go there. I'll leave the bashing to you.
I'm sure we know the answer.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

All the atheists in the world are less of a threat to my faith than sanctimonious, holier-than-thou bigots, who don't know the first thing about the book they claim to love, who only use it as an excuse to scorn and ridicule those they dream other than "true Christians". Oh well, millstones about the neck and all that.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Apparently the one doing the bashing here is not I.


Where in those scripture does it say that the prostitutes and tax-collectors were Christians?
Need help? Acts 11:26
Who were those disciples? Not sinners and tax-collectors.
Luke 8:1-3; 9:1-6; 10:1-7

Were any of these disciples former prostitutes and tax-collectors - who left their former ways, and no longer practiced these? Yes.
Please refer back to Luke 8.

Acts 19:18, 19 18 And many of those who had become believers would come and confess and report their practices openly. 19 Indeed, quite a number of those who practiced magical arts brought their books together and burned them up before everybody. . . .
Could one practice spiritism and be Christian? No.

1 Corinthians 8:7 But some, because of their former association with the idol. . .

Could one smoke cigars, frequent bars to gamble, and binge drink, fornicate with prostitutes, etc. etc. be Christian?
Let me not go there. I'll leave the bashing to you.
I'm sure we know the answer.

Cherrypick all you like, the red letter text is right there for you to read. Jesus loves you, but my patience is spent. TGIF.

 

[Revoltingest]

My own experience with Christians is disappointing. Still, the perils of serving the truth and God are well depicted in the Bible.

My experience with Christians is that they're people hardly different from atheists.
Perhaps to some extent we create the experience we have with others.

 

[We Never Know]

All the atheists in the world are less of a threat to my faith than sanctimonious, holier-than-thou bigots, who don't know the first thing about the book they claim to love, who only use it as an excuse to scorn and ridicule those they dream other than "true Christians". Oh well, millstones about the neck and all that.

And you shouldn't worry about those people because passing judgment as they do goes against the rules of god they believe in.

 

[Revoltingest]

His counterpart in the secular realm is Rider. Who posts nothing but negative against Trump, who coincidentally happens to be Christian. (Wait for the rebuttals toward that)
Haterade marketing leaves consumers thirsty.

Religion is not a race. How silly would that be.

We live in silly times.
Hate, the mind killer, is rampant too.

 

[Mudramoksha]

My experience with Christians is that they're people hardly different from atheists.
Perhaps to some extent we create the experience we have with others.

I think most Christians these days ARE Atheists, but just pretend otherwise. Christians who are serious about their Theism have truly disappeared largely in modern times, few and far between.

I think so-called "fundimentalist Christians" are actually just Atheists using Christianity as a crutch for political leverage.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think most Christians these days ARE Atheists, but just pretend otherwise. Christians who are serious about their Theism have truly disappeared largely in modern times, few and far between.

I think so-called "fundimentalist Christians" are actually just Atheists using Christianity as a crutch for political leverage.

You're even more cynical than I.
And that is saying something.

 

[Mudramoksha]

You're even more cynical than I.
And that is saying something.

Funny enough it's not even me being cynical, it's just me calling a spade a spade.

 

[Revoltingest]

Funny enough it's not even me being cynical, it's just me calling a spade a spade.

That's what cynics do, ie, call'm as they see'm.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Queer does include pedophilia.
No matter how they try to gloss over their terms to hide the true nature, there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed. Mark 4:22

Gay men are no more likely to be pedos than hetero men. Just stop with the hate.

 

[nPeace]

Gay men are no more likely to be pedos than hetero men. Just stop with the hate.

Did I say anything differently?
Because someone says something you don't like, or disagree with, they hate?
Notice we Christians don't have that sort of mentality.
Isn't that an indication that people who choose "alternate lifestyles" really are the haters - First, they hate themselves because they go against their conscience, and second they hate anyone that just opens their mouth and says anything they don't like to hear, because it reminds them how much they hate themselves.
How sad. What a miserable life that must be.

I am saying this because you are against freedom of speech, apparently, and attacked my character for no good reason. I don't know how you can find hate in those two sentences.
What do you expect... that people no longer have a voice since you all tumbled out the closet? Now when people say anything, it must be what you want to hear?

If you hate to hear us speak, I think you know what you can do.
Is there such a thing as speech discrimination? There is now.

Yes. You can stop with the hate, by simply loving yourself. Then you will have no reason to feel so filled with hate when someone makes a perfectly reasonable observation.

No. It's not happening dude.

 

[We Never Know]

Did I say anything differently?
Because someone says something you don't like, or disagree with, they hate?
Notice we Christians don't have that sort of mentality.
Isn't that an indication that people who choose "alternate lifestyles" really are the haters - First, they hate themselves because they go against their conscience, and second they hate anyone that just opens their mouth and says anything they don't like to hear, because it reminds them how much they hate themselves.
How sad. What a miserable life that must be.

I am saying this because you are against freedom of speech, apparently, and attacked my character for no good reason. I don't know how you can find hate in those two sentences.
What do you expect... that people no longer have a voice since you all tumbled out the closet? Now when people say anything, it must be what you want to hear?

If you hate to hear us speak, I think you know what you can do.
Is there such a thing as speech discrimination? There is now.

Yes. You can stop with the hate, by simply loving yourself. Then you will have no reason to feel so filled with hate when someone makes a perfectly reasonable observation.

No. It's not happening dude.

Sure you don't hate, you just posted how others are wrong and how you think they hate themselves. Bravo for spreading all your love lol.