Well let me go over a few mathematical calculations and you tell me this isn't faith or agenda based. I really want your explanation to explain these, Please.
1. According to known historical records the world's population doubles every 100 yrs. In the last few hundred years it is taking place about every 60 yrs. If you start with only the story of Noah and the flood and 8 people survived, which by the way this story in some shape or form is in many many civilizations and very far from one another. To the present day, doubling like earlier discussed, there would be 30 times or around 3000 to 4500 yrs if you use every 150 yr avg for doubling. Ironically that gives us the world's present population of around 7 billion people.
What is fascinating about this is that evolution teaches that man appeared about 1 billion yrs ago. Using the same calculations that scientist use, doubling every 60 to 150 yrs the total no. resulting of people over 1 billion yrs would give us more people on earth than atoms in the entire universe. There should be more people and more bodies if evolutionist were correct.
2.The coded instructions in DNA of a human cell would fill 4,000 encyclopedia books of information. Lets even assume evolution were true, the probabilities of mutations and natural selection to produce that much info is zero. Why you ask?
Evolutionist assume that, and I have been told this on here many times also, given enough time all things are possible. Well lets analyze that for a second. Evolutionist have stated that given that much length of time, in the millions or billions of yrs a monkey could type the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica. Ironically it has been calculated that by random trials just to type the TITLE "Encyclopedia Brittanica would happen only once in 10 to the 39th power. For comparison sake this is like saying it is the same as one monkey sitting on every square foot of the earth's surface stacked 10 miles deep and being able to with only one attempt every second for 10 billion years. Do you realize we are only talking about the TITLE not even the whole series of the Encyclopedia.
The odds of natural process producing the information on a SINGLE strand of DNA exceeds the total no. of subatomic particles within the entire known universe.
3. At one time living cells were considered no more complex than empty table tennis balls. As knowledge has increased is has become apparent that thousands of SPECIFIC and COMPLEX chemicals are required for any form of life to exist and survive.
EVOLUTIONIST Harold Morowitz estimated the probability for chance formation of even the simplest form of living organism to be 10 to the 340,000,000 power! This is equivalent to having a blind person select one specifically marked grain of sand out of an entire earth filled with sand. There isn't enough time for this to occur and that is just for the simplest not counting more complex and evolving to higher forms. 5 Billion years doesn't give you enough time and in reality all of eternity wouldn't give it enough time by random process to form the enormous complexity of life.
4. The simplest conceivable form of life is bacteria. Did you realize it contains at least 600 protein molecules? Each one performs a specific function by fitting into other molecules shaped in exact 3 dimensional spacial arrangements. They work like a key fitting into a lock-only specifically shaped protein. Yet, there are multiple trillion possible combinations of protein molecules and shapes. How did this happen by random chance and multiple times as evolution became more complex along the way?
Did you also know that most scientist agree and acknowledge that probability odds of 10 to the 50th power to be impossible?
So who uses faith with this type of mathematics probability! Yet taught as "fact" and esp for so many in present generation without telling about this. What could that mean?
5. The SCIENCE, yes I said SCIENCE of stats proves evolution is not possible. For example for life to form all things must happen in exactly correct sequence and amounts and exact correct way.
If you only took 6 components needing to be combined in specific order, the six factorial no. of possibilities is 720. (6x5x4x3x2x1).
The simplest form of life requires thousands of specific chemicals in correct sequence. Lets for arguments sake say it only takes 200 the factorial is (200x199x198 so on until you get to one). This means by natural random chance this process can occur only once every 10 to the 375th power. Problem is only the right combination can result in a living cell.
Compare that to the total no. of electrons that could be placed into the space available within the entire universe is only 10 to the 130th power, which statistically by scientist is IMPOSSIBLE. All this happens by random chance?
Yet despite the math it is taught as fact. I find that interesting don't you?
Mathematics tells us evolution is impossible yet taught as fact even using the scientific proven math models.
We are taught and told this is fact, despite all odds making evolution an impossibility,which I doubt you were ever exposed to were you? Why not?
6. Tell me honestly if you can? Which one uses more faith, esp despite the odds not making it possible.
Sounds like the only way possible is ID or God using only math.
For you fellow mathematicians, please do your own calculations and show me the errors, if any were made, but still they can't be greater than 10 to the 50th power for evolution to occur or is impossible!
7. I truly look forward to your responses based on math and science not opinion or cut downs.
8. As I stated in another thread, I would expect you to defend the only thing you have ever been taught or exposed to. Yet as academic people I also would expect you to be honest on the math and science or you prove my other point that no matter what you would never acknowledge God or ID regardless, which is agenda not science or math.
9. Don't argue only creationist are faith based as I have proven otherwise. You have much more than I ever could.
Yours truly!
matt_a_dor
1. According to known historical records the world's population doubles every 100 yrs. In the last few hundred years it is taking place about every 60 yrs. If you start with only the story of Noah and the flood and 8 people survived, which by the way this story in some shape or form is in many many civilizations and very far from one another. To the present day, doubling like earlier discussed, there would be 30 times or around 3000 to 4500 yrs if you use every 150 yr avg for doubling. Ironically that gives us the world's present population of around 7 billion people.
What is fascinating about this is that evolution teaches that man appeared about 1 billion yrs ago. Using the same calculations that scientist use, doubling every 60 to 150 yrs the total no. resulting of people over 1 billion yrs would give us more people on earth than atoms in the entire universe. There should be more people and more bodies if evolutionist were correct.
2.The coded instructions in DNA of a human cell would fill 4,000 encyclopedia books of information. Lets even assume evolution were true, the probabilities of mutations and natural selection to produce that much info is zero. Why you ask?
Evolutionist assume that, and I have been told this on here many times also, given enough time all things are possible. Well lets analyze that for a second. Evolutionist have stated that given that much length of time, in the millions or billions of yrs a monkey could type the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica. Ironically it has been calculated that by random trials just to type the TITLE "Encyclopedia Brittanica would happen only once in 10 to the 39th power. For comparison sake this is like saying it is the same as one monkey sitting on every square foot of the earth's surface stacked 10 miles deep and being able to with only one attempt every second for 10 billion years. Do you realize we are only talking about the TITLE not even the whole series of the Encyclopedia.
The odds of natural process producing the information on a SINGLE strand of DNA exceeds the total no. of subatomic particles within the entire known universe.
3. At one time living cells were considered no more complex than empty table tennis balls. As knowledge has increased is has become apparent that thousands of SPECIFIC and COMPLEX chemicals are required for any form of life to exist and survive.
EVOLUTIONIST Harold Morowitz estimated the probability for chance formation of even the simplest form of living organism to be 10 to the 340,000,000 power! This is equivalent to having a blind person select one specifically marked grain of sand out of an entire earth filled with sand. There isn't enough time for this to occur and that is just for the simplest not counting more complex and evolving to higher forms. 5 Billion years doesn't give you enough time and in reality all of eternity wouldn't give it enough time by random process to form the enormous complexity of life.
4. The simplest conceivable form of life is bacteria. Did you realize it contains at least 600 protein molecules? Each one performs a specific function by fitting into other molecules shaped in exact 3 dimensional spacial arrangements. They work like a key fitting into a lock-only specifically shaped protein. Yet, there are multiple trillion possible combinations of protein molecules and shapes. How did this happen by random chance and multiple times as evolution became more complex along the way?
Did you also know that most scientist agree and acknowledge that probability odds of 10 to the 50th power to be impossible?
So who uses faith with this type of mathematics probability! Yet taught as "fact" and esp for so many in present generation without telling about this. What could that mean?
5. The SCIENCE, yes I said SCIENCE of stats proves evolution is not possible. For example for life to form all things must happen in exactly correct sequence and amounts and exact correct way.
If you only took 6 components needing to be combined in specific order, the six factorial no. of possibilities is 720. (6x5x4x3x2x1).
The simplest form of life requires thousands of specific chemicals in correct sequence. Lets for arguments sake say it only takes 200 the factorial is (200x199x198 so on until you get to one). This means by natural random chance this process can occur only once every 10 to the 375th power. Problem is only the right combination can result in a living cell.
Compare that to the total no. of electrons that could be placed into the space available within the entire universe is only 10 to the 130th power, which statistically by scientist is IMPOSSIBLE. All this happens by random chance?
Yet despite the math it is taught as fact. I find that interesting don't you?
Mathematics tells us evolution is impossible yet taught as fact even using the scientific proven math models.
We are taught and told this is fact, despite all odds making evolution an impossibility,which I doubt you were ever exposed to were you? Why not?
6. Tell me honestly if you can? Which one uses more faith, esp despite the odds not making it possible.
Sounds like the only way possible is ID or God using only math.
For you fellow mathematicians, please do your own calculations and show me the errors, if any were made, but still they can't be greater than 10 to the 50th power for evolution to occur or is impossible!
7. I truly look forward to your responses based on math and science not opinion or cut downs.
8. As I stated in another thread, I would expect you to defend the only thing you have ever been taught or exposed to. Yet as academic people I also would expect you to be honest on the math and science or you prove my other point that no matter what you would never acknowledge God or ID regardless, which is agenda not science or math.
9. Don't argue only creationist are faith based as I have proven otherwise. You have much more than I ever could.
Yours truly!
matt_a_dor
