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Matt Gaetz steps down the king fumes
- Thread starter Riders
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If Gaetz wants to sit in Congress again he needs to win the election. He resigned. There are no takesbackies. He is gone.
And he would re-activate that investigation
into his seamy sexual shenanigans.
Wirey
Fartist
This is exactly correct. Since Congress wasn't seated, he has still not officially lost the seat as a by-election couldn't be called. But if he takes it, that report could be released by three Republican Congress people voting to see it, or any one member of the Republican side of the Ethics Committee. And if the report has new information (which apparently it does) the criminal charges could be reinstated.
Read it on a political blog.
I don't know what blog you read that on, but it is nonsense. Gaetz resigned, officially. That means he will not be seated when the new Congress unless he runs in and wins the special election that is going to happen.
If it's on the internet, it must be true.
Wirey
Fartist
Nope. He can't resign unless Congress is seated. CNN is reporting the same thing.
From the article:
Lawmakers and senior aides believe that Gaetz can still return in January — a scenario that some have privately feared could happen all along, according to more than a dozen sources.
Even though Gaetz said in his resignation letter that he does “not intend to take the oath of office” in January, congressional sources say he is still on track to be named to the seat because the governor has not called a special election and he cannot preemptively resign from a Congress that has not started yet.
But it’s a complicated question with murky legal precedent. Some lawmakers have already asked the parliamentarian to weigh in and clear up the confusion, one source told CNN.
My mistake, you are correct. He resigned from the 118th Congress, and he cannot under any circumstances be reseated in the 118th Congress. But the 119th Congress is a different matter.
But has already been pointed out, if he does try to sit in the 119th Congress the ethics report is going to come out.
I think everything is going to come out one way or another regardless of what Gaetz does, much of it is already out and more is being leaked all the time.
Foxfyre
Member
He resigned from this Congress yes. I don't know that prevents him from taking the seat he won in the next though.
Foxfyre
Member
Gaetz continues to state that he is innocent of all allegations. So I don't know what is in that ethics report. So I don't know. Now that he has withdrawn his nomination as A.G. I am pretty sure Mike Johnson will continue to keep it private. I hope he does. But if Gaetz does take his seat in the new Congress in January, Johnson might have to release it. We'll have to see how it all plays out.
Wirey
Fartist
CNN is reporting there are new allegations, which could re-open the criminal investigation. Gaetz might dip out just to avoid prosecution.
Foxfyre
Member
Since none of us know whether the allegations are true or not, I won't speculate. Given our current culture of lawfare, cancelling people, malicious gossip and innuendo, accusations made up out of whole cloth, I think the American tradition of allowing a person to be assumed innocent until there is irrevocable proof of his/her guilt should be the position of all honorable people. But that's just me.
So I can wonder and even speculate about Gaetz motives as I would any other person. I won't say I have any knowledge of what those are however.
The presumption of innocence is strictly for criminal court.
In all other venues, it's a "preponderance of evidence".
A candidate might be innocent, but if it appears to be
likely they committed serious crimes, it makes sense to
find better.