May 21st 2011

[Tristesse]

You asked for evidence, and now because the information is too scientific you don't want it.

Hmmmm this seems pointless.

I have stayed away from the bible for a few minutes talking outside of it, so now you don't want to review or hear what that information is about. Seems like you are really looking for answers!

Hey go turn on the history channel there is a special that will tell you about how to interpret the bible, and then there is a special on the age of the dinosaurs. I am sure you will find lasy truth there.

No offense, but that is what I am getting from you. I can;t present anything to you, without you saying "AH, I don't feel like looking at it"

Too scientific? hahahaha! I haven't read the whole thing, so I'm not sure what exactly it's evidence for. But I'll read it and let you know what I think, The problem is, I've heard arguments like this before. The fact of the matter is, this kind of stuff, if proven true, it would be front page news! You wouldn't post this stuff on a religious forum. It would be on every news station for years.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Granted this is a quote from a book I have studied, it is a lot of information regarding the flood and the ice age. To date no scientific evidence has proven this writing wrong.

I know that you didn't have any sinister intent, so please take this as a helpful hint - when you quote another source, you should either provide a link to it (if it was taken from the web), or provide the name of the source.

I know you didn't mean to pass off that work as your own, and I wouldn't want you to be accused of plagiarism.

Just trying to help.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

I know that you didn't have any sinister intent, so please take this as a helpful hint - when you quote another source, you should either provide a link to it (if it was taken from the web), or provide the name of the source.

I know you didn't mean to pass off that work as your own, and I wouldn't want you to be accused of plagiarism.

Just trying to help.

You are right, but I am new here, and the speed with which most people reply, almost inclines me to believe no one is actually reading all of the information anyway. However it is good posture to do citation. Thanks...

 

[Just_me_Mike]

What are Frubals?

 

[YmirGF]

You are right, but I am new here, and the speed with which most people reply, almost inclines me to believe no one is actually reading all of the information anyway. However it is good posture to do citation. Thanks...

Actually, some of us can read (and type) rather quickly.

 

[Tristesse]

You are right, but I am new here, and the speed with which most people reply, almost inclines me to believe no one is actually reading all of the information anyway. However it is good posture to do citation. Thanks...

No worries man. I usually find, that most people in opposition to a certain science, have a hidden agenda to boast their religion. But science doesn't operate within the confines of a religion. Science is the effort to discover and increase human understanding of how reality works. So, science is constantly revising it's self, the more we learn. If you stop taking a literal view of the bible, it might help. Most christians I encounter don't take a literal view of the bible. There's even a brand of christians who don't even think jesus existed, but thats a different topic.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

You are right, but I am new here, and the speed with which most people reply, almost inclines me to believe no one is actually reading all of the information anyway. However it is good posture to do citation. Thanks...

You are welcome, It.

I know you meant no harm, and I don't want you (or anyone else) to be thought less of for an honest mistake.


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[The Voice of Reason]

At the top right of each post, there is a # that shows the number of posts in a given thread. Immediately to the right of that number, is an icon that looks like a diamond (at least, it does to me).

If you really like a post, you can click on that diamond, and then type a short message to the person that wrote the post.

They will receive frubals from you, as a reward.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Granted this is a quote from a book I have studied, it is a lot of information regarding the flood and the ice age. To date no scientific evidence has proven this writing wrong.

Yes, We are Almost There!, By Harold Camping

To date, no scientific evidence has proven this Book correct.

 

[OmarKhayyam]

I gotta hand it to you guys. You are way more patient than I am. To wade through this mass of meaningless mis-interpreted mythology as presented by our newly appointed deranged equestrian is more self-flagellation than I care to endure.:no:

But then I've seen it all before.:run:

 

[tumbleweed41]

Event Year BC
Creation (about 13,000 yrs. Ago) 11013

• 11000 BC: First evidence of human settlement in Argentina.
• 11000 BC: Human remains deposited in caves which are now located off the coast of Yucatan

The Glacial Epoch

Thus far we have calculated that the world before the flood was 10º to 15º F. warmer than today. We have also seen that the flood caused a worldwide temperature reduction of 20º to 30º F. so that the average temperature became a 10º to 15º F. colder than today. Now the intriguing question must be asked: Is secular evidence available that shows that the world was this much colder in the past? The answer to this question is affirmative if we examine the evidence relating to the glacial epoch or ice age.

The Black Sea deluge is estimated to be about 700 years after your date for the flood.
Also at this time...
Five new cultures started in China
Europeans began farming.
No evidence of a massive cooling of 20 Degrees, in fact the Black Sea deluge was caused by massive warming, as evidenced by glacial core tests.

Secular scientists talk about an ice age that continued on and off for one million years. They speak too, of inter-glacial periods when there were warm spells. When we realize, however, that one million years is recent compared with the four and a half billion years they believe the earth has existed, we see that they, too, are acknowledging that, relatively speaking, the ice age is very recent. Moreover, since the Bible establishes the earth’s age as some 13,000 years, any other time periods suggested by secular scientists must be recognized to be erroneous. All evidence must be evaluated within the much narrower compass of 13,000 years rather than millions or billions of years.

By eliminating the scientifically arrived at conclusions of the ice age, and supplanting it with the biblicaly inspired age of the earth, all scientific evidence of the authors conclusions are null and void.

To put it another way, once we realize that the ice age could have been induced only by the flood about 7000 years ago, then we know that the ebb and flow of the ice sheets would have been of tens or at most hundreds of years in duration. Thus, so-called inter-glacial periods become insignificant in the whole phenomenon. In fact, some of the phenomena commonly associated with warmer inter-glacial periods probably are to be associated instead with the warmer pre-flood world.

Non scientific, biblicaly inspired. No evidence of world wide flooding.

We are quite aware that the conclusions of this chapter are somewhat speculative compared with information discussed in our earlier chapters. But we do believe this study will help to see the possibility of obtaining the most satisfactory reconstruction of the past only if the Bible data is considered.

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In other words, our conclusions only work if you throw out science and use data that is inferred from the Old Testament.

You asked for evidence, and now because the information is too scientific you don't want it.

You, or should I say Mr Camping, abandoned any science when the findings of scientists were replaced with young Earth nonsense. Just because a plethora of data is used does not make it scientific.

 

[Troublemane]

No the ice age did not start then, but hell whats the point, I could present Jesus to you all and you still wouldn't believe.

Let's think about that for a minute. Jesus himself showed up to his own people and did also sorts of miracles. They still did not believe. Sure some did, but many didn't. so how in the world could I expect anyone here to believe. I am just one person, and can try to answer questions, but there doesn't seem to be a focus in the forums. IT is just a jab session.

I have studied for years other ideas, and religions. Had conversations with people of other faith, and all that without the silly jabbing you get in here. My skin is plenty thick enough, but my time is more important I suppose.

Thanks for keeping me intereted for a while everyone. I am sure I will write again, but I understand my folly now, when trying to think how I would have a better result than God did when he was here. It is perfectly sound to think he will destroy so many people.

so you are comparing yourself to jesus, now?

have you ever asked yourself, if the bible is the perfectly inspired word of God, why did it have to be changed by a New Testament? and why is it full of falsehoods and contradictions?

you seem to be painting youself as someone who has all the answers but so far have yet to produce anything remotely cogent, not scripturally or logically, to back up your assertions. and so we are supposed to believe what you say as if it were the inspired word of God? show me a prophecy you have already made, and when it comes true then i might put some stock in your prediction of may 21, 2011. otherwise, dont insult me, saying you can read my mind or say what i would believe or what i wouldnt believe, IF you could actually produce jesus christ before me. which i dont think you can. :angel2:

 

[Just_me_Mike]

Well as I see it science is constantly updating as it learns more. Not knocking science at all, I love it. However hwne it comes to the flood and other events like that, the scientific community as a whole is at odd against each other. They have evidence to support it, and they also have ideas that take them in other directions. I mean the bib bang has been revised several times, black holes have been revised before.
All I am saying is the bible is constant.
Anyway, your right though I can't convince you of anything. I mean I am not a scientist either, and I am not Jesus. Just here for good forum chat. Hope I can continue that.

Thanks...

 

[rojse]

What are Frubals?

Frubals are a reward given to you by other people by making good posts - it might be challenging, informative, humorous, or insightful, or have any other number of attributes that this person enjoys in a post. If people give you frubals, it will appear in your user heading, and your User CP will give information on who gave you frubals, and any message they attached when they gave you these frubals.

As Voice of Reason stated, you may give frubals to other people to recognise their posts. Feel free to test it by clicking on the scales button above my post.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

As Voice of Reason stated, you may give frubals to other people to recognise their posts. Feel free to test it by clicking on the scales button above my post.

Oh man.

Did you have to make me put my glasses on, and squint to see that those are a set of scales?

All this time, I thought it was a diamond.

I'm laughing at myself for not having ever put my glasses on and taking a close look.

You sure know how to make a guy feel old (or, more correctly, older).

I guess I'm getting to that age where a warm glass of milk might do me good right before I go to bed. At 7:15 PM.

 

[BucephalusBB]

You sure know how to make a guy feel old

Ofcourse, you could have just told us you work with a 13" monitor instead

 

[OmarKhayyam]

VR:

If you using IE running Windows on a PC there is keyboard macro that helps.

CTL and + and CTL and - will increase + or decrease- the font and overall size of the display.

If you blow it up enough you can tell the icon is indeed a set of scales. Poorly rendered but clearly scales.

Just FYI

 

[Wandered Off]

However it is good posture to do citation.

Not just good posture, but required by RF's legendary Rule 7.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Is that date familiar to anyone on here? I have evidence that God will return that day. No, I am not joking, but I do understand this could open me up to more insulting than I have already received.
Look forward to your replies...

In preparation for this blessed event, let's stop drinking caffiene.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

In preparation for this blessed event, let's stop drinking caffiene.

What? Never!