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Maybe its time for a right wing military style dictatorship

dfnj

Well-Known Member
For years now I've heard how liberals and Democrats have destroyed this country. And that liberals and Democrats are baby killers and Democrats are mentally retarded. I've heard how government is too big and big government is the source of all our problems. Congress has a 10% approval rating. Everyone hates Congress. Congress never gets anything done. Gridlock in Washington is why everyone is miserable. Even when the Republicans control all three branches of government somehow the Democrats are still to blame.

We simply cannot afford healthcare security, retirement security, descent place to live security, or good job security. We just can't do it no matter how much productivity improves. We simply have too much government and not enough resources to keep people out of poverty. We just can't do it.

So I've been thinking. Since Democrats are destroying this country maybe the way to take back the country is to have a right wing military style dictatorship. Everyone LOVES the military. Many people who served in the military are already conditioned to serve a commander. The president is already our Commander in Chief. Everyone LOVES the police. Everyone LOVES Jesus and the Bible. People just LOVE obeying authority. Maybe its time to stop wasting money on voting for something everyone hates and just go for a military style dictatorship. Give the people who love to obey authority exactly what they want!

With a right wing military style dictatorship we will finally get things done in this country. Liberals and Democrats will no longer be able to destroy our country. Why waste money on voting and elections when everyone hates the results. Everyone hates Congress. Compromise is a waste of time and money. We might as well save our money and just have the military in charge.

Just think how much smaller government would be if we just had military rule. Government is the reason why everything is bad in this country. Maybe it's time to get rid of the government! This country has been moving right for 30 years now. Hillary worked on Goldwater's presidential campaign! If we are moving so far to the right we might as well go ALL THE WAY! It's just a matter of time anyway.

What are you thoughts? Why is it important to have a minority party in this country? Why do we need Congress? Why do we need liberals and Democrats voting in this country? What's the point? What purpose do Democrats and liberals serve???
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Serious question: Are you being serious?

I have never heard a Republican ever answer any of these questions publicly or privately. Some subjects are just taboo. It would be really interesting to hear any Republican explain to me why having Democrats in government serves a purpose.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I have never heard a Republican ever answer any of these questions publicly or privately. Some subjects are just taboo. It would be really interesting to hear any Republican explain to me why having Democrats in government serves a purpose.

I have a friend who could have produced the rant you produced in the OP, but he has some quite serious mental health issues. You don't have any mental health issues that you know of, do you? I'm genuinely curious. There's no shame in having mental health issues -- but as someone who has been afflicted with them himself at times, I can testify that they can cause distortions in our thinking.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I have a friend who could have produced the rant you produced in the OP, but he has some quite serious mental health issues. You don't have any mental health issues that you know of, do you?

Not that I know of.

So you don't think it's a serious question. You've never heard or thought liberals and Democrats have destroyed this country. I just think Republicans would prefer a military style government over Congress. I've never heard a Republican ever say anything nice about Congress or Democrats. What purpose do they serve then. Why do we have elections if everyone hates Congress?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
With a right wing military style dictatorship we will finally get things done in this country. Liberals and Democrats will no longer be able to destroy our country. Why waste money on voting and elections when everyone hates the results. Everyone hates Congress. Compromise is a waste of time and money. We might as well save our money and just have the military in charge.

Tyranny is tyranny...

I personally find myself befuddled by the current incarnation of Democrats, but even I know the lack of competition breeds mediocrity or worse. You only have to look at what happened during Obama's administration to understand this much. The only thing that keeps any of these politicians working is that they may lose their seat if they do not, if that changes everything just goes into crony mode. Of course, I say this with a lot of experience residing in an area where Democrats literally have no competition for any seat they want. All that being said, there can be "benevolent dictatorships" they are just statistically unlikely.

As far as Congress, all that has to happen is that we need to make it impossible for them to take donations, salaries from companies, or property while they serve. This will mean that the only people who will take the job will be genuinely altruistic since there will be no reason to run. It's the money, greed, and side-dealing that really causes all of the stagnation in that branch of the government.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Not that I know of.

So you don't think it's a serious question. You've never heard or thought liberals and Democrats have destroyed this country.

I don't think the notion that "liberals and Democrats have destroyed the country" is firmly based in reality. Sounds more like something you'd hear on Fox News or in a mental ward.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Not that I know of.

So you don't think it's a serious question. You've never heard or thought liberals and Democrats have destroyed this country. I just think Republicans would prefer a military style government over Congress. I've never heard a Republican ever say anything nice about Congress or Democrats. What purpose do they serve then. Why do we have elections if everyone hates Congress?
I think republicans like authoritarian governments. To me the right is destroying the country. If they do destroy the country with a dictatorship then sic semper tyrannis.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I don't think the notion that "liberals and Democrats have destroyed the country" is firmly based in reality. Sounds more like something you'd hear on Fox News or in a mental ward.

That is exactly what I hear on Fox News, OAN, and American One. If you are not a Republican I wasn't really asking my questions to you. I've heard liberals and Democrats are poo poo for so long I was just wondering what Republicans really want. Where does this end?

But seriously, what purpose does having a minority party in government serve?
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I think republicans like authoritarian governments. To me the right is destroying the country. If they do destroy the country with a dictatorship then sic semper tyrannis.

I totally agree with you. But if Republicans think liberals and Democrats are the root cause of everything bad in this country, I'm just curious what is next.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
What are you thoughts? Why is it important to have a minority party in this country? Why do we need Congress? Why do we need liberals and Democrats voting in this country? What's the point? What purpose do Democrats and liberals serve???
Congratulations. You have just proposed officially making a banana republic out of the USA.

Speaking as someone whose people keep alternating between blaming the military and counting on them to save the country, I can assure you that only a failed country would even consider such a path.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I think republicans like authoritarian governments. To me the right is destroying the country. If they do destroy the country with a dictatorship then sic semper tyrannis.

I don't think it's Republicans per se who like authoritarian governments, but rather a group of people known to psychologists as "authoritarian followers" -- people whose psychology inclines them to follow authoritarian leaders, such as Stalin or Hitler.

Fun Fact: About forty years ago, authoritarian followers were about evenly divided in the US between the Republican and Democratic Parties. But that changed. Over the past few decades, AFs have migrated to the Republican Party so that very few are now left in the Democratic Party and almost all of them are concentrated in the Republican Party. Some political scientists now argue that AFs have taken control of the Republican Party.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
But seriously, what purpose does having a minority party in government serve?
When the people are sufficiently politically mature, it allows them to learn and consider alternate viewpoints and thereby avoid authoritarianism and radicalism.

That is all but indispensable if some form of representative system is to be kept.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
But seriously, what purpose does having a minority party in government serve?

Liberals and conservatives tend to check each other so that neither group can go to destructive extremes.

Of course, that's how things work ideally. We don't live in ideal times.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Liberals and conservatives tend to check each other so that neither group can go to destructive extremes.

Of course, that's how things work ideally. We don't live in ideal times.

What have the Democrats or liberals checked or balanced successfully in the last 30 years?
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
I don't think it's Republicans per se who like authoritarian governments, but rather a group of people known to psychologists as "authoritarian followers" -- people whose psychology inclines them to follow authoritarian leaders, such as Stalin or Hitler.

Fun Fact: About forty years ago, authoritarian followers were about evenly divided in the US between the Republican and Democratic Parties. But that changed. Over the past few decades, AFs have migrated to the Republican Party so that very few are now left in the Democratic Party and almost all of them are concentrated in the Republican Party. Some political scientists now argue that AFs have taken control of the Republican Party.

This was a really good post. I think the number of AFs in this country is growing. I think based on this eventually our government is going to change.
 
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