Meat-Eating vs. Bestiality

[Curious George]

Seems that there is some sort of misunderstanding here. Are you saying that middle-aged people need meat or they don't? It's very hard to tell from your words since you only talk about "studies about middle-aged people"...are these studies pro-meat or pro-plant based? Perhaps you are saying that adolescents and young children need meat?

No, it is a qualifier. I have not read anything that suggests moderate amounts of meat are not necessary or healthy for people under thirty or children. So, I would not go so far. Our dietary needs change over time. So, concluding that meat in x amount is unhealthy for all is not an easy issue.

 

[Curious George]

Seems that there is some sort of misunderstanding here. Are you saying that middle-aged people need meat or they don't? It's very hard to tell from your words since you only talk about "studies about middle-aged people"...are these studies pro-meat or pro-plant based? Perhaps you are saying that adolescents and young children need meat?

http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050221/full/news050221-5.html

 

[Curious George]

Seems that there is some sort of misunderstanding here. Are you saying that middle-aged people need meat or they don't? It's very hard to tell from your words since you only talk about "studies about middle-aged people"...are these studies pro-meat or pro-plant based? Perhaps you are saying that adolescents and young children need meat?

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1693S.full

I am saying that middle age (50-65) people should likely reduce their protein intake given the March 4 2014, http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/abstract/S1550-4131(14)00062-X
article in cell metabolism. I am pretty certain I have read elsewhere that has suggested moderate amounts of protein can have adverse effects above age 35. I have never read any study supporting people under this age have any adverse effects from moderate amounts of protein. I have read that people who are without animal protein must take more care in dietary planning because of known problems such as b12 deficiency. Now, I am not saying it is not possible to plan around this. I am however saying that it requires more effort. Do you disagree?

 

[Chakra]

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1693S.full

I am saying that middle age (50-65) people should likely reduce their protein intake given the March 4 2014, http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/abstract/S1550-4131(14)00062-X
article in cell metabolism. I am pretty certain I have read elsewhere that has suggested moderate amounts of protein can have adverse effects above age 35. I have never read any study supporting people under this age have any adverse effects from moderate amounts of protein. I have read that people who are without animal protein must take more care in dietary planning because of known problems such as b12 deficiency. Now, I am not saying it is not possible to plan around this. I am however saying that it requires more effort. Do you disagree?

Thanks for providing links to studies. I will look at them later.

Yes, vegans have a harder time with B12, but I think meat-eaters shouldn't be too careless. They may need B12 supplements too. The only reason why there is B12 in meat is because it is injected in, as far as I know.

 

[Curious George]

Thanks for providing links to studies. I will look at them later.

Yes, vegans have a harder time with B12, but I think meat-eaters shouldn't be too careless. They may need B12 supplements too. The only reason why there is B12 in meat is because it is injected in, as far as I know.

B12 is naturally occurring in animal products. It is true that b12 is produced by bacteria, but that bacteria is naturally found in some animals.

 

[Curious George]

Thanks for providing links to studies. I will look at them later.

Yes, vegans have a harder time with B12, but I think meat-eaters shouldn't be too careless. They may need B12 supplements too. The only reason why there is B12 in meat is because it is injected in, as far as I know.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminB12-Consumer/

 

[RRex]

Meat-eater here, bring it to me rare.

Bestiality? That's just wrong.

No one in their right mind does that to an animal.

 

[Tiberius]

Meat-eater here, bring it to me rare.

Bestiality? That's just wrong.

No one in their right mind does that to an animal.

What about when an animal does it to a human?

 

[We Never Know]

Meat eater here. Vegans and vegetarians should thank me. I eat the critters that eat their food

 

[Curious George]

What about when an animal does it to a human?

Weird bump, but ok.

 

[night912]

Here's a thought. What if animals consented, would it still be immoral?

 

[Valjean]

Here's a thought. What if animals consented, would it still be immoral?

You've been reading too much Hitchhiker's Guide.

 

[Tiberius]

Here's a thought. What if animals consented, would it still be immoral?

Consented to sex with a human or being eaten?