Secret Chief
Very strong language
It isn't agonising, it is just walking. Just walking and nothing else. Why not try it for five minutes?
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Meditation
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SteveGrayFTW
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I downloaded a white noise app on my phone, and I tend to listen to that with headphones, and set loud enough so I don't hear outside noises. I then just focus on that noise (I use an "airplane travel") and it becomes pretty easy for everything else in my mind to just dissipate.
Counting my breaths works too, but I need to ensure I'm in an absolutely quiet area to get the most of it. I've gone to a meditation group a few times at my church, and try to meditate in silence, but the noises from the street outside then to knock me out of "the zone" fairly often.
Counting my breaths works too, but I need to ensure I'm in an absolutely quiet area to get the most of it. I've gone to a meditation group a few times at my church, and try to meditate in silence, but the noises from the street outside then to knock me out of "the zone" fairly often.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
It sounds like you need someone beside you to teach you how to meditate. Most of the instructions given thus far would seem to make the assumption that you know what you are doing. I'm not so sure.
Given that I am still a novice at meditation, having only spent the last 38 years on the endeavor, my advice might be limited. I have a couple of questions first before I unload any advice.
1. WHY do you want to meditate? (To what end?) In other words, what do you expect meditation to give you?
2. Are you able to do light, non-strenuous, exercise?
3. Do you drink large quantities of any energy drinks and or coffee/soda?
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Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
I'm aware of the theories but not good at the specifics.
It sounds like you need someone beside you to teach you how to meditate. Most of the instructions given thus far would seem to make the assumption that you know what you are doing. I'm not so sure.
Given that I am still a novice at meditation, having only spent the last 38 years on the endeavor, my advice might be limited. I have a couple of questions first before I unload any advice.
1. WHY do you want to meditate? (To what end?) In other words, what do you expect meditation to give you?
2. Are you able to do light, non-strenuous, exercise?
3. Do you drink large quantities of any energy drinks and or coffee/soda?
1. I want to try and have peaceful moments. Stress relief. Potential for some sort of spiritual or religious output - but see "unwilling agnostic" above. Ability to have some stillness that could lead to introspection. I don't have a lot of that during the day and my brain tends to whirr at a ridiculous RPM.
2. Yep
3. No, I've cut back significantly. Caffeine does help medicate the ADHD so I tend to drink it at work but prefer water.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well, as the saying goes, these things take time Drolefille. Once you do settle in a technique my best wishes it's effective and productive for you.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
As a person who has Asperger's, ADHD comes along with that, as well as some other mental maladies. But, I've found that I've had almost no problem with following the breath, and it has helped me greatly. However, this also doesn't work for all people. So, you have to ask yourself first, what is meditation? It's looking inward, to purify the mind. In this regard, almost anything can be considered meditation, if looked at from the right angle. I think it was Draka who suggested dancing, this is the same as the Sufi group started by Rumi, the whirling dervishes. The main thing is to find something that can cause one to be mindful and aware in every moment. You've already mentioned that mantras don't really work too well, I don't get much out of them either. I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but try walking meditation. You'll be doing something (which should satisfy the ADHD
) and meditating at the same time.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Something I like to do when I meditate is stretch. And think of pictures of things, or picture doing something I enjoy doing. I relax but at the same time I let the intensity of my own energy (I also have ADHD) take over the frenzy of my mind. On the outside I am still and unmoving, but on the inside I just let my mind take over my ADHD almost helps me in terms of concentrating and being able to jump from focus to focus.
Its a self discipline that requires a lot of effort and well...discipline!
Its a self discipline that requires a lot of effort and well...discipline!
loveistheweapon
Potterlosopher
I really love the idea of a mantra, or chant, or something to focus your brain on.
I read once that many folks with ADHD get a lot of joy from driving (and speeding), there there is something about it that calms their mind.
Many picturing yourself driving down an open road or something might calm your body and mind enough to get into a meditative state.
I read once that many folks with ADHD get a lot of joy from driving (and speeding), there there is something about it that calms their mind.
Many picturing yourself driving down an open road or something might calm your body and mind enough to get into a meditative state.
Maya3
Well-Known Member
It sounds like you need someone beside you to teach you how to meditate. Most of the instructions given thus far would seem to make the assumption that you know what you are doing. I'm not so sure.
Given that I am still a novice at meditation, having only spent the last 38 years on the endeavor, my advice might be limited. I have a couple of questions first before I unload any advice.
1. WHY do you want to meditate? (To what end?) In other words, what do you expect meditation to give you?
2. Are you able to do light, non-strenuous, exercise?
3. Do you drink large quantities of any energy drinks and or coffee/soda?
Facepalm?
Maybe you should be slightly less judgmental.
Maya
I'm going to order a yantra, a Sanskrit word meaning machine or instrument, for focusing on during meditation: Vishnu Pujan Yantra :: - on Rudraksh Ratna-Rudraksha necklace,Yantra,Malas,Hindu Meditation Items
In Hinduism (maybe used in the other dharmic reigions too, I don't know), the yantra invokes one's chosen deity (ishta-devata) with that deity's mantra. The yantra may be a design, or have the deity's image and mantra.
A yantra with a mantra ("What about the chalice from the palace?" "No! the chalice from the palace was broken; the pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon; vessel with the pestle the has the brew that is true..." :slap.
In Hinduism (maybe used in the other dharmic reigions too, I don't know), the yantra invokes one's chosen deity (ishta-devata) with that deity's mantra. The yantra may be a design, or have the deity's image and mantra.
A yantra with a mantra ("What about the chalice from the palace?" "No! the chalice from the palace was broken; the pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon; vessel with the pestle the has the brew that is true..."
:slap.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
This may work for some,..find a quiet place and time,..relax and listen hard to hear an inner background noise/sound. If you are one of those who can hear it, forget about where it comes and/or what it is, just stay tuned/listening,...the steady listening to the sound will still the mind's extraneous thoughts.
Powerful stuff...
Powerful stuff...
Maya3
Well-Known Member
SteveGrayFTW
Member
It sounds like you need someone beside you to teach you how to meditate. Most of the instructions given thus far would seem to make the assumption that you know what you are doing. I'm not so sure.
Given that I am still a novice at meditation, having only spent the last 38 years on the endeavor, my advice might be limited. I have a couple of questions first before I unload any advice.
1. WHY do you want to meditate? (To what end?) In other words, what do you expect meditation to give you?
2. Are you able to do light, non-strenuous, exercise?
3. Do you drink large quantities of any energy drinks and or coffee/soda?
I don't really think the "facepalm" was called for. If you don't like the way I meditate, then don't meditate the way I do. I was merely offering something up that works for me.
Maya3
Well-Known Member
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Yes, it makes sense that this practice would be conducive to stilling the mind, but eventually when the mind has attained sufficient discipline to stay tuned, try it without the externally produced white noise, you may hear the inner sound.
Also like the external white noise, when the inner sound is used to stay attuned to, external sounds are very distracting (an irritation that will persist until union/transcension is realized and there is no inner or outer), but the goal remains,...dhyana...still mind.
SteveGrayFTW
Member
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Thats just his style. He's not an altogether bad dude.
Actually counting breaths is primarily an exercise used to develop focus needed for meditation such as Zazen.
I admit i chuckled a bit when you mentioned the distractions taking you out of the zone.
Whenever that happens, just start at one again.
Good focus will be needed so its worthwile on whatever meditation you decide on.
Good luck.
SteveGrayFTW
Member
Thats just his style. He's not an altogether bad dude.
Actually counting breaths is primarily an exercise used to develop focus needed for meditation such as Zazen.
I admit i chuckled a bit when you mentioned the distractions taking you out of the zone.
Whenever that happens, just start at one again.
Good focus will be needed so its worthwile on whatever meditation you decide on.
Good luck.
Thank you!
I admit "the zone" was probably a bad choice of words, but I was kind of hoping people would know I meant.
The meditation group is hard because the building is right alongside a busy city street, so you get car horns, sirens, people yelling, etc.....not to mention one guy who can't sit still. Makes it hard to focus.
