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[icehorse]

Universal income?

When I've looked into UBI or its varieties, it seems that UBI provides only a subsistence level of income. If you're homeless or really down on your luck, that sounds like a possible solution, but if was applied for everyone, it sounds quite dystopian.

 

[Revoltingest]

When I've looked into UBI or its varieties, it seems that UBI provides only a subsistence level of income. If you're homeless or really down on your luck, that sounds like a possible solution, but if was applied for everyone, it sounds quite dystopian.

They do have the option to work for income over
& above the UBI. Note that the "B" is for "Basic",
not "Billionairtastic".

 

[Twilight Hue]

When I've looked into UBI or its varieties, it seems that UBI provides only a subsistence level of income. If you're homeless or really down on your luck, that sounds like a possible solution, but if was applied for everyone, it sounds quite dystopian.

My issue is people not realizing that complete dependency is essentially welding considerable power and control over its dependents.

On the other hand, it's appealing that it would provide time for people to pursue the things they like.

Either way it's a double edged sword that remains precarious at best.

My thoughts on UBI are very mixed.

 

[HonestJoe]

I dunno. I don't come across humans anymore on the phone when making an appointment or customer service. At least for the first hour or two.

That just supports my point. There isn't a humanoid robot picking up the phone, putting it to their ear and writing down what you're saying. What you're talking about is a simple filtering system, replacing only one part of what a human receptionist/call handler would actually do, which is also why there is always an option to speak to a human (however well hidden it might be).

The point is that it is much, much easier to replicate individual human roles or processes (or indeed achieve the same things in different but more efficient ways) than it is to replicate an entire human capable of doing many of those processes (though not necessarily very well).

 

[Kooky]

My issue is people not realizing that complete dependency is essentially welding considerable power and control over its dependents.

On the other hand, it's appealing that it would provide time for people to pursue the things they like.

Either way it's a double edged sword that remains precarious at best.

My thoughts on UBI are very mixed.

Here's a couple of horror stories for you:

You are dependent on your boss for the money you need for food and shelter.
You are dependent on your local government for infrastructure, services, education.
You are dependent on your friends and acquaintances for your social security and mental health.
As an infant, you were dependent on your parents for all aspects of your survival.
As an adult you are still dependent on other people in all aspects of your life.


In truth, there is nothing horrific or scary about being dependent on others. Being human is being a social animal, an animal that literally needs its fellow animals to survive and thrive.

To paraphrase a passage from one of my favorite works of fiction of all time, no one will save us if we do not reach out our hand, and the hand we grasp will always be just as empty as ours; all we have is what we are, and what we give.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Here's a couple of horror stories for you:

You are dependent on your boss for the money you need for food and shelter.
You are dependent on your local government for infrastructure, services, education.
You are dependent on your friends and acquaintances for your social security and mental health.
As an infant, you were dependent on your parents for all aspects of your survival.
As an adult you are still dependent on other people in all aspects of your life.


In truth, there is nothing horrific or scary about being dependent on others. Being human is being a social animal, an animal that literally needs its fellow animals to survive and thrive.

To paraphrase a passage from one of my favorite works of fiction of all time, no one will save us if we do not reach out our hand, and the hand we grasp will always be just as empty as ours; all we have is what we are, and what we give.

I can n choose my boss or make money for myself.

Education can be public or private at home.

Not everyone needs friends. Lone wolf's tends to do fine. ;0]

Dependency as a baby, well I grant that, yet appreciate I'm not born a Spartan or a 'weak infant' regarded as a liability and aborted so dependency on parents is not always there. Unless I was raised by wolves or maybe sold to the highest bidder.....

Sometimes a good story has plot twists.

 

[Valjean]

To paraphrase a passage from one of my favorite works of fiction of all time, no one will save us if we do not reach out our hand, and the hand we grasp will always be just as empty as ours; all we have is what we are, and what we give.

"And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make."
"The End" The Beatles. Abbey Road,