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Members with any mental health issue -- are you doing okay at this time of year?

Heyo

Veteran Member
I haven't been doing ok. I don't want to get into it but i havent felt safe even tho I know I am. I've had more flashbacks then usual. As for how you can help... I have some negative core beliefs I know are wrong and incorrect but after years of them being installed into me it's hard to deal with them sometimes even tho i know they are wrong. I've been working on them with a therapist but maybe a reminder they aren't true could help. Here they are they pop up from time to time

1. I am a burden unworthy of life.
2. I'm worthless and useless
3.I'm not actually disabled im just an attention seeker(even tho every therapist I've been to says im autistic and im not faking for sure)
4. I should suffer im a horrible person.
5. My needs and wants don't matter.
6. I don't care about anything
7. No one cares about me.
8. I'm insane.
9. I'm not safe. Im never safe.
10. I can't do anything right

That's just a few of them. There are more but those been active a lot these last few days.
What we know and what we believe ...
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
This is the hardest time of year for most people who suffer from any sort of mental health issue. Anxiety levels go up, there's less sunlight, thus less melatonin. The expectations (of happiness and celebration) can be huge, and you may not be able (or invited) to engage.

When I was 17, I was left alone on the streets of Toronto at Christmas by the Children's Aid. I don't suffer from any mental health issue (that I'm aware of) but I can tell you the the sheer misery was infinitely worse on Christmas Eve and Christmas day.

So, are you doing okay? Do you have people to connect to? Help on the internet is pathetic, but if you're having a tough time, is there anything we can do to help?
I'm doing ok because of my family's help.
If you want to be helpful to meter readers offer them a cool drink when its hot, and if you have it in your heart maybe a toilet break as well (perhaps Canada is not as hot as Australia though).

The only other thing I can think of which I'm sure you do anyway is vote for the left - because many of us mentally ill folk are necessarily depending on government services and subsidised medications to keep us from going over the edge.

In my opinion.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I haven't been doing ok. I don't want to get into it but i havent felt safe even tho I know I am. I've had more flashbacks then usual. As for how you can help... I have some negative core beliefs I know are wrong and incorrect but after years of them being installed into me it's hard to deal with them sometimes even tho i know they are wrong. I've been working on them with a therapist but maybe a reminder they aren't true could help. Here they are they pop up from time to time

1. I am a burden unworthy of life.
2. I'm worthless and useless
3.I'm not actually disabled im just an attention seeker(even tho every therapist I've been to says im autistic and im not faking for sure)
4. I should suffer im a horrible person.
5. My needs and wants don't matter.
6. I don't care about anything
7. No one cares about me.
8. I'm insane.
9. I'm not safe. Im never safe.
10. I can't do anything right

That's just a few of them. There are more but those been active a lot these last few days.
@VoidCat...the most important thing I can say to you begins with "belief." As you said, you have "negative core beliefs I know are wrong and incorrect." You go on to say that they were "installed into me."

Why do you need a therapist to tell you about how wrong that is? And why do you suppose that people who have made you feel your ten points are: first -- true of you, and second -- failings?

I shall try, in a very limited, unprofessional, uneducated, but caring way to answer your questions.

"I am a burden unworthy of life." Who says so? And more importantly, who gets to decide what you or anyone else is worthy of, and why? And wbat makes you a burden? I've never met anyone in my life who did not depend, one way or another, on other people. Is that being a "burden?" Or is it just being a member of a social species?

"I'm worthless and useless." Are you? Who gets to decide? What are the criteria upon which they make their judgement? (And while you are thinking about those questions, ask yourself what it is about who claim that you are 'worthless and useless" that make them valuable and useful.

"I'm not actually disabled im just an attention seeker(even tho every therapist I've been to says im autistic and im not faking for sure": Only you and your heathcare provider can answer those questions. Anybody else's opinion -- including mine -- are worthless and you should pay them no attention.

"I should suffer im a horrible person." Well, are you a horrible person? How so?? What have you done, or what are you doing?

But a further thought, maybe not a great one, if there are "horrible persons," and if they have no control over what makes them "horrible" in the estimation of other people, why does that necessarily entail that they should suffer?

"My needs and wants don't matter." Well, I agree, your needs and wants don't matter to me -- but I reather suspect that they matter to you. That just brings us to the notion that people who don't give a **** about you don't care about your needs and wants, but those who say they do care about you -- well, if they don't care about your needs and wants are probably not worth worrying about theirs.

"I don't care about anything" That is not true. If it were, you would not be posting here, nor would you have responded to my post.

"No one cares about me." Of course I have not response to that, but I'd ask you to think about the last few people you were talking to. What were you talking about? Were they interested? Did they ever want to engage agiain?

"I'm insane." Whose opinion is this? Yours? What do you mean by "insane?" Are you a danger to yourself, or to others? Are you unable to write coherent posts on RF?

"I'm not safe. Im never safe." From what? Do you suppose that any human being is "safe" all of the time? The most protected person i in the United States is the President, yet four of them of have been assassinated. And in any case, each and every one of us will die -- usually without being assassinate,

"I can't do anything right." I have no idea what that means, but I suspect, because this is pretty common, that you may be trying to do things that don't suit you well. Many people in such situations, recover by doing something they're good at. I did that. I tried to be an accountant and bored myself to tears -- then I discovered computers and my world changed bigtime.

Stop worrying about what everybody else thinks -- do everything for yourself.
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
I've been having a lot of anxiety lately. I'm considering getting some glasses for light sensitivity.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'd say I'm unusually depressed for this time of year, but for me the holiday season was marred for me two years ago when my brother died just after the beginning of the year. So it may be a new norm for me. with a sense of loneliness, from a childhood and even adulthood that taught me to keep people at a distance with a wall than dare let anyone near, that eats at me like it didn't used to.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
"I can't do anything right." I have no idea what that means, but I suspect, because this is pretty common, that you may be trying to do things that don't suit you well. Many people in such situations, recover by doing something they're good at. I did that. I tried to be an accountant and bored myself to tears -- then I discovered computers and my world changed bigtime.
It's a smaller piece of the puzzle. Myself, sometimes I struggle with feeling like a general **** up, even stricken with feelings of inadequacy and ineptness in areas I know I'm very good at and have a solid background to support the claim.
But, for me, it comes with having your every mistake highlighted and pointed, things you did well but the not well enough emphasized too much, and very rarely having anyone who actually says good job but often being told you aren't good enough. And by that point you often become your own worst critic, more harsh, stern and critical of yourself than anyone else would ever be.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
and if you have it in your heart maybe a toilet break as well (perhaps Canada is not as hot as Australia though).
That's not really a bad idea for some places. It would seem like an odd thing to offer, but I assume here isn't the only place where toilets open to the public are scarce and you just have to know where they are if you move around a lot and hope one is close if it's an emergency.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
This is the hardest time of year for most people who suffer from any sort of mental health issue. Anxiety levels go up, there's less sunlight, thus less melatonin. The expectations (of happiness and celebration) can be huge, and you may not be able (or invited) to engage.

When I was 17, I was left alone on the streets of Toronto at Christmas by the Children's Aid. I don't suffer from any mental health issue (that I'm aware of) but I can tell you the the sheer misery was infinitely worse on Christmas Eve and Christmas day.

So, are you doing okay? Do you have people to connect to? Help on the internet is pathetic, but if you're having a tough time, is there anything we can do to help?
I'm doing fine. I'm fortunate that I have a support system in place. Diagnosed with major depression and anxiety disorder along with childhood PTSD, it was an uphill battle as a kid. Life long therapy and my spiritual/religious journey have been very helpful. Now, I continue on with all of that, friends, family and animal companions are so helpful as well.

Thank you for your concern and bless you. :)
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I'm doing fine. I'm fortunate that I have a support system in place. Diagnosed with major depression and anxiety disorder along with childhood PTSD, it was an uphill battle as a kid. Life long therapy and my spiritual/religious journey have been very helpful. Now, I continue on with all of that, friends, family and animal companions are so helpful as well.
I'm doing fine now, but you should have seen be earlier today. I was having a major anxiety attack. My mood can shift on a dime, depending upon things that happen.

I have a support system in place on this forum and help is available for me through counselors and the Baha'is in my local community, if I need it.

I was first diagnosed with major depression and anxiety disorder when I was about 32 yrs old and I was later diagnosed with PTSD, which was caused by the sudden death of my father when I was 12 yrs old. I have counseling off and on since then and I attended a a lot of 12 step programs back in the late 80s and early 90s.

I did not really start my spiritual journey until about 10 years ago. Now I continue on that path and my friends and cats are a tremendous help.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
We don't need therapists to tell us why and how it's wrong. As @VoidCat said, we know already.
The problem lies in implementing that knowledge, in really living it without the nagging feeling in the back of of our heads.
Some of us know it already but not everyone knows it. Those people need therapists.
Knowing is only half the battle. It is a long road from knowing to implementing that knowledge and sometimes we never get very far down that road.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Stop worrying about what everybody else thinks -- do everything for yourself
It's not really what everyone else thinks I'm worried about. See these ideas were installed into me through trauma. Years worth of it. By people who were supposed to care for me and nurture me as a child. It's hard to let go of such ideas when they are really trauma responses to things my abusers would say to me.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Why do you need a therapist to tell you about how wrong that is
Connections and habits built through trauma are hard to break. Often they were formed for survival. A therapist is useful in helping you break those habits and work through the negative connections your mind made into making new more positive ones. And to help you get out of survival mode. Cbt therapy techniques are good for these types of beliefs

I thank you for your whole response. It has helped me. I just thought I'd comment on those two things. I don't know what to say to the rest of it.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I don't have mental health issues, well... No more than mr and mrs average

My brother in law though is a full on paranoid schizophrenic who is having a bad time at the moment for several reasons. The upshot is that he is alone and lonely in a new appointment apartment he only moved in to a week ago. He's fallen out with his parents and most of his friends, sacked his support team and is intent on reducing his medication with what we see as dire results.

Anyway, Christmas day tomorrow, though we don't really celebrate Christmas we are having a slap up meal and brother in law is virtually invited.

We live in different countries with no plane connection at this time of year so tomorrow he will prepare the same foods as us and he will have a place at our table via video call.
 
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