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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The way I look at it: if everyone is thinking the same, then no one is thinking. I would rather see people think and disagree than to see people's minds overtaken by the herd mentality.

I agree, and again there is making a point and just thinly veiling personal attacks. But, it seems lately more and more people are just posting only to trash on folks. That old adage about, "If you have nothing good to say... Don't say it..."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The way I look at it: if everyone is thinking the same, then no one is thinking. I would rather see people think and disagree than to see people's minds overtaken by the herd mentality.
One should just be prepared to be called dishonest, stupid, deluded, abominable & a tool of this or that agenda.
(Fortunately, such brickbats are wielded by the least capable. This affords opportunity for sport.)
 

Kueid

Avant-garde
If the only reasoning acceptable to them is what they have already concluded then they are following a dogma.
What's the problem in following a dogma?

Whether you speak of Jesus, or Hitchens it is a faith argument.
Seems that you consider faith arguments as invalids. If someone believed that they are valid and engaged in an attempt to show you that, would you think they are "bashing" and just because you think different?

Real truth is rarely that absolute, and most people have valid reasons for their understandings of the world. If every X is a nutter you have joined this club. You aren't even considering other positions, so what is the point other than to simply be cruel?
Be good and try to save your brother from the claws of evil. That's just another explanation you know you can keep what you already concluded if you want.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
One should just be prepared to be called dishonest, stupid, deluded, abominable & a tool of this or that agenda.
(Fortunately, such brickbats are wielded by the least capable. This affords opportunity for sport.)
Said the "Ignorant Atheist Capitalist Engineer Libertarian" to the "Lazy Cop-out Nebulous Mystic Heretic Troll." ;) I wear such labels as badges of honor.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Guys, please remember that this is not a debate thread. This thread is for members' concerns, not debating.
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
I suppose I qualify as one of the people who hold generally unpopular views (supporting Trump, being more conservative in several areas, etc). I don't really care much if a lot of people disagree with me (as I'm used to it, of course), but having to address several people at once can be rather bothersome.
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
What's the problem in following a dogma?

In my experience:

1. With dogma, you're not thinking for yourself. You're following some Life Rulebook that someone else came up with. You're living someone else's morality.

2. With dogma, you have to take the bad with the good. For example take the Christian idea that if you accept Jesus as Lord you get to live in eternal paradise. To the growing child in a Christian community this can be delivered as a positive message. "Jesus loves you, if you love him back you'll be saved" or "all you have to do is accept the love of Jesus and you'll live forever. Only later in life do you realize that this part of the dogma also means that your Jewish neighbors are going to burn in hell for eternity.

That's the worst part about dogma if you ask me...you have to accept the whole system of beliefs rather than following the things you believe in and ignoring what you don't.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
I really do not care what people think of me. If they like me great. If not so what.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't really care much if a lot of people disagree with me (as I'm used to it, of course), but having to address several people at once can be rather bothersome.
It can sure get to be hectic responding to'm all with full attention.
But sometimes groups will do this with abusive intent, even discussing the singular poster in 3rd person.
This is against the rules, but it happens.
I notice it most often in evolution-creationism arguments, wherein
the creationist is made to look like a boob (not the good kind).
 
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