Memories Vs Experience of God

[rational experiences]

If hu man's say God created me then science and machine only built and controlled by men for conversion reactions could not theory God.

Otherwise life would be destroyed which is pretty basic.

Science says no God.
Science the same men once said God was....

So did science as men of science learn should be our question?
Numerous statements. Science.

What is a hu man suppose to do.

Men say adamantly God is a man or my father.

Or multi gods male or female.

Male owns a penis....scientific.
Female owns a vagina ....scientific.

Science discusses numerous bodies and own many subjects about human bodies. Men bodies women bodies or animal male or female bodies. Science.

Yet we are always just a human.

So to talk as a human I give a named situation stated by my human self to a man as a God and a father.

And it is spirit. Thinking as a form of human science expression.

What do you think you are talking about when you physically are affected by identified activated human aware feelings?

Sometimes seen and sometimes not. As I have been finger poked in my side and it hurt. No one there.

Now I could claim it was a memory that my own physical self previously had felt. And it recurred.

So what would it be?

A recording.

As we live in and with water oxygen both bodies are also aside from us. With us but not owned. By our side yet also surrounding us.

Pretty obvious you cannot talk about spirit unless it is using the same forms that human life does.

Why we discuss spirit of God whilst already living as just a human.

 

[HonestJoe]

So tell me...Are your memories real? Can you provide evidence of your memories?

Memories are real, the things and events depicted in them may not be because the human brain is far from perfect. I don't expect anyone to change how they live their lives on the basis of my memories though.

It is possible to provide evidence supporting the existence of memories by detecting brain activity as they're stored and recalled. We're a long way away from fulling understanding exactly how they work but their existence and real physiological phenomena is undeniable.

How are your memories any more real than God?

They are two entirely different concepts so I don't see why they'd even be comparable. It's like saying "How is my computer more real than Martians?"

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yeah, and to me they are different. So we are using both subjective standards. yet you claim you use an objective standard in effect.

Yeah, our view points are different. I made no such claim. I stated only my view. I said "For me, ..". You may check my post.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yeah, our view points are different. I made no such claim. I stated only my view. I said "For me, ..". You may check my post.

So the world is what?

 

[John53]

And it seems different to me. Seems is a relative different subjective standard and your version of seems is not only one possible.

I have no idea what that means.

 

[John53]

That applies to some memories but not all of them. Maybe only some of your memories, the ones you can use to make novel predictions, are real and some of the rest are false memories since no proof one way or the other is possible. False memories are well known.



That's like someone who has never had a headache asking what a headache feels like.

My experience is not entirely what is in this song, but the song contains the essence of my answer to your question.

I'll take that as a no

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I have no idea what that means.

It means that we understand some aspects of the world differently and we can both get away with it.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Many say God isn't real and cite lack of evidence to support their statement.

So tell me...Are your memories real? Can you provide evidence of your memories?

How are your memories any more real than God?

Are you trying to say that God only exists in the mind, akin to a memory? Does God have no expected effects on the observable world?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Are you trying to say that God only exists in the mind, akin to a memory? Does God have no expected effects on the observable world?

That depends on what God is assumed to be and what is assumed the observable world and if all of the world is the observable world.

 

[stvdv]

Explain to me how you feel Gods presence and I might agree otherwise it seems to me you're comparing apples to oranges

You hit the jackpot

Exactly this Atheists do asking Theists for proof

 

[SalixIncendium]

For example: If I remember leaving my jacket in the car instead of in my closet, and I go out to the car and find my jacket there, then my memory corresponded to reality quite accurately and was "true" in that sense.

Do you have objective evidence of your memory of leaving your jacked in the car instead of the closet?

 

[SalixIncendium]

So are you saying god is of the mind? I can agree to that.

I'm not saying anything. Just asking questions.

 

[ChristineM]

I'm not saying anything. Just asking questions.

Ok...

 

[SalixIncendium]

Are you trying to say that God only exists in the mind, akin to a memory? Does God have no expected effects on the observable world?

I don't try to say anything. Either I say something or I don't.

That said, I'm not saying anything. Just asking questions.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I don't try to say anything. Either I say something or I don't.

That said, I'm not saying anything. Just asking questions.

Fair enough.

An absence of evidence is evidence of absence as long as the thing being looked for ought to produce evidence.

If someone is claiming that belief in their god is justified, the justification will provide some indication of evidence that ought to be present if their god were real.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I don't understand how they can compare.

You can have evidence for a memory... I might say to the wife remember when we went on the cruise and she responds that she remembers.

In other words, others who have shared our experiences can reinforce our memories. Do you not consider that might equally be the case with spiritual experiences? That they can be collective, and shared?

Of course, my partner and I might not be able to agree on what colour jumper God was wearing when he intervened in our lives. But that’s because everything becomes a little blurred with distance.

 

[RestlessSoul]

So the world is what?

Predicated on paradox.

Both illusory, and perfectly realised. A dream within a dream, in which nothing is fixed, nothing is constant, but everything is governed by an infinity of intricate and precise patterns and laws.

Perhaps.

 

[Aupmanyav]

So the world is what?

An illusion.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, in practice God is of the mind. But the joke is that your version of what correct evidence is, is also of the mind. In effect a result of the western culture's obsession with evidence, truth, proof, real, rational, knowledge and all of these cognitive words in the mind is this: https://iep.utm.edu/cog-rel/

In that case, there is nothing to check and no difference between truth or untruth.

 

[sun rise]

I'll take that as a no

You took a nuanced answer as a 'no'. Got it.