Men can create Men........

[MW0082]

I have an issue with this whole god thing.....

So if God is THE creator, why can men create things? I.E. living life, if there were a god I would asume they would never allow humans to have this capability.

Why would a god give you the tools to abandon him if he loves you so dearly, and wants you forever more.....?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

We're made in God's image.

 

[PolyHedral]

Because it's supposed to be a choice. ...How that actually works in real-life I'm not sure.

 

[The_Evelyonian]

We're made in God's image.

What angellous said.

 

[indian tea]

people can create life now?

really complex life?

perhaps you need to examine far more complex or just other ideas of God, besides some dude with a beard and one who goes around "creating" stuff.....

here's a start, look up the word emanationism

 

[Breathe]

Who knows for sure?
Maybe because we are God, too? Maybe God wants us to improve and be like God, to be God-like?

Maybe God doesn't care, or does not intervene?

Why would a god give you the tools to abandon him

Choice?




Honestly, I don't get what the problem would be with a God and the ability for life to create life. Would you consider having children to be creating life?

 

[thedope]

Creation is extension.

 

[MW0082]

Who knows for sure?
Maybe because we are God, too? Maybe God wants us to improve and be like God, to be God-like?

Maybe God doesn't care, or does not intervene?


Choice?




Honestly, I don't get what the problem would be with a God and the ability for life to create life. Would you consider having children to be creating life?

But I guess what I am thinking is that religions see life being created by sexual intercourse. Now that we have the capabilities to create life from scratch. Would that not be against gods will?

If it's not, then are not all the other rules out the window involving sexual intercourse? I am asking as a gay man, who is told that I am wrong in my sexual orientation becuase I cannot pro create, byut we can pro create with out sex. We cloned a sheep, we can grow new organs, and were proibably less than ten years away from cloning ourselves, or creating humans from scratch.

 

[thedope]

But I guess what I am thinking is that religions see life being created by sexual intercourse. Now that we have the capabilities to create life from scratch. Would that not be against gods will?

You are only moving existing codes, not creating life. Life extends itself through you, you are not the author of it.

 

[MW0082]

You are only moving existing codes, not creating life. Life extends itself through you, you are not the author of it.

Then why are sexually deviant acts an abomination when in all reality we don't even need sex anymore?

 

[PolyHedral]

You are only moving existing codes, not creating life. Life extends itself through you, you are not the author of it.

No we're not. We're creating the DNA from base elements.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Then why are sexually deviant acts an abomination when in all reality we don't even need sex anymore?

I would think that most men and women need to have [safe] sex to stay healthy.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

No we're not. We're creating the DNA from base elements.

Really?

I didn't know we could create DNA [basically] from scratch.

I would like to see proof for this, please. It would be a wonderful accomplishment.

 

[thedope]

No we're not. We're creating the DNA from base elements.

Excuse me? Who is we and what dna are we creating?

 

[MW0082]

I would think that most men and women need to have [safe] sex to stay healthy.

Well I mean as far as pro creating goes. If we can pro create without sex, maybe we should open our minds to what sex could be..... And I don't mean any sick degrating stuff, I mean man and woman, man and man, woman and woman, 5 people whatever floats your boat.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Well I mean as far as pro creating goes. If we can pro create without sex, maybe we should open our minds to what sex could be..... And I don't mean any sick degrating stuff, I mean man and woman, man and man, woman and woman, 5 people whatever floats your boat.

Yeah, I get it.

But as far as I know, the product of such procreation at this point would only be female.

More specifically, women don't need men anymore for procreation. Theoretically, women could wipe men off the face of the earth and go on their merry way.

 

[CarlinKnew]

...Now that we have the capabilities to create life from scratch...

"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." -Carl Sagan

 

[Breathe]

Would that not be against gods will?

Why would it be?

If it's not, then are not all the other rules out the window involving sexual intercourse?

Why would God give a crap who you have sex with?

The only time I think sex should be forbidden is when it is non-consensual and harmful for others: rape, with animals or children.

Since non-heterosexual people are none of these, why would a God care?

I am asking as a gay man, who is told that I am wrong in my sexual orientation becuase I cannot pro create, byut we can pro create with out sex.

What a silly reason you have been given, so I guess that means that people who can't have children and are unsuccessful at IVF should not have children too in that case, and nor should people have intercourse post-menopause. Why stop there? Why not condemn oral sex and mutual masturbation, too? Of course, we know the vast majority of those who would criticise homosexuality would not condemn these people (although some people will condemn oral sex and masturbation).

I'm a straight, married man with children and I believe in "God", and think others should love who they want. I'm a supporter of same-sex marriage. It's their choice, it harms none, and I really doubt a God would condemn, despite what some followers would claim. If that God did, I'd wonder about its mindset and have questions regarding why.

We cloned a sheep, we can grow new organs, and were proibably less than ten years away from cloning ourselves, or creating humans from scratch.

This doesn't concern me, nor do I think it would concern a Divine Entity.

 

[MW0082]

Why would it be?


Why would God give a crap who you have sex with?

The only time I think sex should be forbidden is when it is non-consensual and harmful for others: rape, with animals or children.

Since non-heterosexual people are none of these, why would a God care?


What a silly reason you have been given, so I guess that means that people who can't have children and are unsuccessful at IVF should not have children too in that case, and nor should people have intercourse post-menopause. Why stop there? Why not condemn oral sex and mutual masturbation, too? Of course, we know the vast majority of those who would criticise homosexuality would not condemn these people (although some people will condemn oral sex and masturbation).

I'm a straight, married man with children and I believe in "God", and think others should love who they want. I'm a supporter of same-sex marriage. It's their choice, it harms none, and I really doubt a God would condemn, despite what some followers would claim. If that God did, I'd wonder about its mindset and have questions regarding why.


This doesn't concern me, nor do I think it would concern a Divine Entity.

I understand yopu, and I agree. However many do not, many on this forum. There is still a stipulation or stigma against homosexuality.

But I digress, back on topic. So God is ok with not having to do all the creating. Do you think it has always been this way? Maybe he started with a batch and said now you take care of it from here even.....

 

[Breathe]

I understand yopu, and I agree. However many do not, many on this forum. There is still a stipulation or stigma against homosexuality.

Nuts to them.

But I digress, back on topic. So God is ok with not having to do all the creating. Do you think it has always been this way? Maybe he started with a batch and said now you take care of it from here even.....

Perhaps, perhaps.

I believe in evolution, after all.

I also ponder whether this universe may have come from another universe, anyway, so that the Big Bang was not the beginning, just this beginning. Perhaps God's creation is in the creating--the action, not the result, and so by creating, we are doing God's work? How would we know if this was or was not the case? Just throwing a few theories around.