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Men the slaves of Gods

Did God or Gods really make man because he/they loved him? In the first place, why an all powerful being would need to make mortal beings?

Examine the following
1) The world is separated to rulers who live as gods or representatives of God and uneducated slaves who work and live like pigs till they are replaced by new generation of slaves.

2) God's justice is still a promise and we have no guarantee that it has really happened or will happen in the future. Wars and misery are still here, nothing has made them less. It seems rulers dont care for this, since they manage to limit population that way.

3) Man bears children. Then, how he will be resurrected, since children are supposed to be his <<resurrection>>? Is resurrection promise, a lie to the mortal men?

I propose the theory that Gods have made man as slave, so that they take advantage by his sacrifices. This presupposes that Gods are not really immortal since they need man. They gain precious metals from man's work. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.

Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Did God or Gods really make man because he/they loved him? In the first place, why an all powerful being would need to make mortal beings?

Examine the following
1) The world is separated to rulers who live as gods or representatives of God and uneducated slaves who work and live like pigs till they are replaced by new generation of slaves.
Middle class. Non-government employed upper-class.

2) God's justice is still a promise and we have no guarantee that it has really happened or will happen in the future. Wars and misery are still here, nothing has made them less. It seems rulers dont care for this, since they manage to limit population that way.
Baseless.

3) Man bears children. Then, how he will be resurrected, since children are supposed to be his <<resurrection>>? Is resurrection promise, a lie to the mortal men?
Is there a source for this?

I propose the theory that Gods have made man as slave, so that they take advantage by his sacrifices. This presupposes that Gods are not really immortal since they need man. They gain precious metals from man's work. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.
You haven't brought any type of evidence supporting anything in these four sentences.
Slave =/= sacrifice.
Immortality =/= self-sufficient.

As for the last two, I don't even.

Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?
Perhaps you intended to post this here.
 
Nothing is baseless.

The world is a masonic pyramid. The poorest are on the last bottom level. The ones on the upper levels dont work at all and keep secrets from the rest of society, deciding the fate of the world.

People work till they become exhausted and retire. They are like machines. We all know this truth. Is it a blessing or a curse?

Your holy sciptures say that a son is the resurrection of the father. It says that when he dies, his brother takes his wife to resurrect the seed. Theres no hope for personal resurrection in the people of the Torah. They are just beams on the chain under the religious elit of the Mosaic Law. Their person is considered a nothing as every slave.

When somebody disagrees, the whole society is pushed to throw stones on him, under the fear of public punishment by a dracula God, as the clergy claims. This is how they keep the order of the slaves. Unity by fear.

The scriptures of many religions say that Gods demand the blood and meat of healthy animals and men, as sacrifice. What does a God needs blood and flesh if he's immortal? Blood is power and life, so Gods need blood to renew their artificial immortality. They also say they drink nektar(blood) and eat ambrosia.

Centuries and millions of years have passed. Yet men die, injustice is all around and we have a promise with no gurantee that a time will come when this will change and Earth will be a paradise. Can we have a paradise with slaves working from the morning till noon, when Gods sit on the throne eating fruits? Of course no.

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There is another scenario. Satan (I know jews dont believe in Satan as Christians) has enslaved God, which means Satan has become stronger and God needs the help of humanity to free himself and beat Satan. We have all around us the evidence that evil is stronger than good.

Evil rules the world as Jesus talks about the master of the wind and the master of this world.

If God was stronger he would not leave Satan to make all this mess without any reason. At lease he would intervene at some time to kill Satan and banish evil. If this hasnt happened yet, it will never happen unless somebody frees God from Satan's prison.


An all powerful and all loving God would not create all this tragic theatre of the world. For what reason? At least the world was better when only animals existed.

So its either that the creators of man are really EVIL or that God the creator of man has been currently beaten by Satan or what you call the powers of Evil and Darkness.

Gods are not always immortal and all powerful thats why they need power and sacrifices from humans.
 

Burl

Active Member
If the creators of man are really EVIL things would be worse than they are; I think it's odd that none of the refugees shown on TV look malnourished; so it comes down to an Ego thing, which can fit in with the plans of a benevolent overseer. Dissatisfaction=Pride, no?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
.. uneducated slaves who work and live like pigs till they are replaced by new generation of slaves. .. It seems rulers dont care for this, since they manage to limit population that way. .. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.
1. Get some education. Why do you remain uneducated? 2. The rulers don't care about human numbers. 3. That is totally unfair, which ruler do you think does that?
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
I propose the theory that Gods have made man as slave, so that they take advantage by his sacrifices. This presupposes that Gods are not really immortal since they need man. They gain precious metals from man's work. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.

Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?

~;> its only your propose theory and
wild idea as what you've said
so the current situation regarding your own propose theory and wild idea
are not quite possible
especially
the way how you determine to define the term slave of gods
if we may say so


:ty:




godbless
unto all alway
 
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Aiviu

Active Member
1) The world is separated to rulers who live as gods or representatives of God and uneducated slaves who work and live like pigs till they are replaced by new generation of slaves.
They are not allowed to rule over other but themself. These slaves can sense it but often they like to think a sacrifice of themself to the ruler will make them reach to whom the rulers are speaking from.

2) God's justice is still a promise and we have no guarantee that it has really happened or will happen in the future. Wars and misery are still here, nothing has made them less. It seems rulers dont care for this, since they manage to limit population that way.
No heart is going to save them for things which can be advised in a peaceful way when they did it in a violent way against human. Just try to define a justice without the revengeful, self rightenous or selfishness from man.

3) Man bears children. Then, how he will be resurrected, since children are supposed to be his <<resurrection>>? Is resurrection promise, a lie to the mortal men?
When the children remember their parents had done things in true love to them they save their parent while the children are still alive. Not by praying but by getting to know their parents in their love and their heart. A missing heart will find because they truely had gone.

I propose the theory that Gods have made man as slave, so that they take advantage by his sacrifices. This presupposes that Gods are not really immortal since they need man. They gain precious metals from man's work. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.

Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?
Man has desire to executed their self-purification via others. They want to restore what seemed lost to them. Secondly other man has desire to greed for their wealth in life, a heaven on earth and do not care for God or the others. They just use the unfound evidence of God in the others themself to rule over them. In the end it is God's plan and it is and was not allowed to be desired from man. The highest instance they'd been given to rule, is to rule over their own desireful minds in any form and variation.

Our protective heart let no violence of any kind passes to God. Not anybody will be let in the heart who acts in violence. There is no heroic way to come to Gods kingdom.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?
I would go with neither 'wild' nor 'quite possible' but 'ridiculous'. Sorry, it offends reason in many ways; eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
Did God or Gods really make man because he/they loved him? In the first place, why an all powerful being would need to make mortal beings?

Examine the following
1) The world is separated to rulers who live as gods or representatives of God and uneducated slaves who work and live like pigs till they are replaced by new generation of slaves.

2) God's justice is still a promise and we have no guarantee that it has really happened or will happen in the future. Wars and misery are still here, nothing has made them less. It seems rulers dont care for this, since they manage to limit population that way.

3) Man bears children. Then, how he will be resurrected, since children are supposed to be his <<resurrection>>? Is resurrection promise, a lie to the mortal men?

I propose the theory that Gods have made man as slave, so that they take advantage by his sacrifices. This presupposes that Gods are not really immortal since they need man. They gain precious metals from man's work. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.

Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?
I don't think the god(s) made man, but some of them know how to flex their power and glory to deceive & make man believe that they are our creator(s), and use that to great advantage for themselves.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Did God or Gods really make man because he/they loved him? In the first place, why an all powerful being would need to make mortal beings?

This assumes inherent separation between Man and God(s).
To answer the second question, perhaps we as God(s) manifested ourselves as separated beings because of perceived (self-inflicted) offense over an action we deemed 'ungodly.' These separated beings are humans, that are believed to be inherently separate from each other.

Examine the following
1) The world is separated to rulers who live as gods or representatives of God and uneducated slaves who work and live like pigs till they are replaced by new generation of slaves.

2) God's justice is still a promise and we have no guarantee that it has really happened or will happen in the future. Wars and misery are still here, nothing has made them less. It seems rulers dont care for this, since they manage to limit population that way.

3) Man bears children. Then, how he will be resurrected, since children are supposed to be his <<resurrection>>? Is resurrection promise, a lie to the mortal men?

I propose the theory that Gods have made man as slave, so that they take advantage by his sacrifices. This presupposes that Gods are not really immortal since they need man. They gain precious metals from man's work. They also eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.

Do you think that the current situation makes my idea wild or quite possible?

Given that I am of the belief that a demiurge is 'creator' of this world and we are, in essence, that demiurge (disunified, via illusion of self), then I think there are morsels of truth to the 'humans as slaves' claim. I would highly doubt (so called) rulers on this planet are tuned into a grand plan connected to demiurge (longterm con, really), but do think such ideas are for sure interesting/entertaining.

Just because we behave irresponsibly (some of the time) and appear uneducated about the greater scheme, doesn't mean our actual Creator is up to the same nefarious (or ignorant) process.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I believe that no one knows what god is, so all the ignorant stories about god are just what the ignorant of those times wrote, and sadly also what many ignorant people believe today.
 
Ignorance comes mainly from atheism.

We know genetic code exists, so theres a coder behind it as there is behind any pc program. We all know that bodies are programmed machines.

Besides this, even if we conclude Freyd was right to say that people were offering sacrifices to the deceased mortals (who did not exist after death according to his atheistic mind), this doesnt answer the question who created the deceased mortals who were deified by the rest of the living.
 
I would go with neither 'wild' nor 'quite possible' but 'ridiculous'. Sorry, it offends reason in many ways; eat the flesh and drink the blood of strong and healthy virgins, since life is blood.

Then why do they ask sacrifices of strong and healty ones? And why do we read that blood is life? Is sacrifice just a theatre?

As I said, if you conclude that sacrifices were made by ignorant people, this doesnt prove they were not created by Gods.

High ones ask sacrifices one way or another. People are sacrificed in every day life when they work every day and go to be killed in wars. Of course this happens till they become useless and old. This is a huge sacrifice.

I believe ignorance is

1)the belief there are no gods or
2) that gods love man for sure and it's man's fault for his misery
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Ignorance comes mainly from atheism.

We know genetic code exists, so theres a coder behind it as there is behind any pc program. We all know that bodies are programmed machines.

Besides this, even if we conclude Freyd was right to say that people were offering sacrifices to the deceased mortals (who did not exist after death according to his atheistic mind), this doesnt answer the question who created the deceased mortals who were deified by the rest of the living.
Ha, not true at all, its certainty the other way around, your looking at the genetic cod today, it took a hell of a long time to get to where it is today, it all didn't just pop into existence like magic, come on, get educated.
 
Ha, not true at all, its certainty the other way around, your looking at the genetic cod today, it took a hell of a long time to get to where it is today, it all didn't just pop into existence like magic, come on, get educated.

No matter if it has changed or not, the code is code and behind it theres a coder. It doesnt matter if we're talking about the first or last edition of a program. So you have nothing to discuss and provide info, goodbye
 
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