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Mentally ill Afghani woman brutally beaten and burnt to death for allegedly burning Qur'an.

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
This happened on Thursday.

"KABUL, Afghanistan — The mentally ill woman, her face covered in blood, rose to her feet and looked out across the mob. She pleaded. But these men meant to kill her.

A kick sent her tumbling backward. In the courtyard of one of Kabul’s most famous shrines, men hurled stones at her and struck her with wooden planks.

When she was dead, they tied her body to a car and drove to the Kabul River. On the garbage-strewn bank, they burned her corpse.

Her name was Farkhunda, and, for most of her 27 years, her parents had searched for help in treating the mental illness that had plagued her since girlhood.

None of that mattered to the mob. To them, she stood accused of a vile and sacrilegious act: burning pages from the Quran.

Kabul has been riveted since her death Thursday afternoon. Cellphone videos of the killing have been circulating widely, appalling some but drawing approval from others.

“If I had been there, I would have burned her, too,” said a man who on Friday had come to see the place along the riverbank where Farkhunda’s body was burned the day before.

But a hatmaker who had watched the mob from his shop condemned the attack as inhuman.

“What they did is brutal and completely against Islam,” said the hatmaker, Sayed Habib Saadat. What left him feeling especially worried, he added, was how many of the attackers were teenagers or young men in their 20s.

The divergent responses trace Afghanistan’s struggle between its commitment to conservative Islam and the Western notions of individual rights and due process that have been slow to take hold over the past decade.

On Friday, as the police arrested nine men believed to have been part of the mob, an official in the Ministry of Religious Affairs said the attack on Farkhunda might have been justified if she actually did what she was accused of."

Rest of article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/w...hing-in-afghanistan-but-some-support-too.html

Human Rights Watch is demanding an investigation: Afghanistan: Probe Police Response to Woman’s Killing | Human Rights Watch

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As a show of protest and solidarity with the young lady who had her life so horrifically ended, an Afghani ex-Muslim burned a Qur'an:

If you feel that a book is worth more than a human life, then you are not worshiping God. You're just evil. As a Christian, you could destroy all the Bibles you want or say whatever nasty things about Jesus you want and make offensive images, but I'll never want to hurt you because of it. God doesn't need us to defend Him. How devilish does your idea of religion have to be in order to think that the Creator and Ruler of the universe wants you to act in such ways?! :eek::mad:
 

Baladas

An Págánach
This is horrible...savage. Words fail me to describe my disgust and horror with people who place so little value on human life - even to the point of taking pleasure in brutal murder.

Life is precious...no form of media is worth cutting it short. Especially not the life of another.
It is madness of the darkest form.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
This is horrible...savage. Words fail me to describe my disgust and horror with people who place so little value on human life - even to the point of taking pleasure in brutal murder.

Life is precious...no form of media is worth cutting it short. Especially not the life of another.
It is madness of the darkest form.
Well said. I cannot sympathize at all with the mentality that something's or someone's "honor" or whatever is worth killing over. It's the same thing that's driving the people who riot and murder when cartoonists draw images that some don't like, even killing people who have nothing to do with it at all. I mean, if you believe in a God that created life, wouldn't life be the most precious and Divine thing in existence? Not some books or abstract concepts!

Sadly, stories like this from that part of the world abound. It's almost a daily occurrence and it's mostly against women but sometimes men get stoned to death and otherwise lynched, too, for nonsense reasons. But this just struck me and I felt I should post it as an example.
 

von bek

Well-Known Member
This tragic story also underlines how much work still needs to be done in educating people about mental illness. Not that the mob would have been justified in any instance; but, if they had an understanding of the reasons behind her actions, would they have opted for mercy?
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Just read some of the comments on Youtube: some of these Muslim commenters obviously value a book more than Human life.
For example:

suli man
19 hours ago

its a shame to you people , Zohra Latif , ReblopTV , I am knowing it that the christians are going to start war with Islam but you should know it that this holy book is having a saver.
its good to hang you people for insulting the Holy Quran.

GuLLi Gul
3 hours ago

Well there is no difference between you and the people who killed that girl because all of you are ignorent. May Allah grant you the right path. Ameen!

My personal favourite (emphasis added):

manu jusufi
9 hours ago

You are all unworthy people
You just know know what you have done
I hope that Allah forgive you for that
You are such a shame in the name of Muslim
The act against that woman was maybe wrong but what you have done in the video was extremely wrong and for that you will be punished you will be punished for that mark my words

There are over 1 billion Muslims on this planet, and I'm not going to tar them all with the same brush.
I will however, say that some Muslims just need to learn to tolerate criticism/apostacy/mockery of their religion.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
This tragic story also underlines how much work still needs to be done in educating people about mental illness. Not that the mob would have been justified in any instance; but, if they had an understanding of the reasons behind her actions, would they have opted for mercy?
Mental Illness or not, no-one deserves that kind of treatment for burning a book. Especially a book based on mythology.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
This tragic story also underlines how much work still needs to be done in educating people about mental illness. Not that the mob would have been justified in any instance; but, if they had an understanding of the reasons behind her actions, would they have opted for mercy?
No, they would've done it, anyway.
 

von bek

Well-Known Member
No, they would've done it, anyway.

You may be correct. There is still an issue where around the world, people who are suffering from mental illness are accused of witchcraft or possession and treated in a cruel manner accordingly. Hey, I even believe in magic and paranormal powers and I still believe we must be careful in assessing exactly what is happening in a given situation. Brutal crimes are carried out, particularly against women, due to not understanding mental illness.
 

NoX

Active Member
The title correction: Mentally ill woman been killed by mentally ills.


Also I never believed and will never believe that these kind of events occurs spontaneously. Why would someone comes in front of a Mosque and burns a Quran. Thought provoking.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Taking responsibility for what ?
The abuses carried out by the ignorant fundamentalists of your camp. You expect the West to own up for its abuses, but you shirk yours? No True Scotsmen is the most disgusting & loathsome of arguments, and only worms resort to it.
 

NoX

Active Member
The abuses carried out by the ignorant fundamentalists of your camp. You expect the West to own up for its abuses, but you shirk yours? No True Scotsmen is the most disgusting & loathsome of arguments, and only worms resort to it.

Why would someones ignorance be my responsibility ? Maybe this was something planned before and these persons who murdered the woman were al-q members paid by someones. Lets prove it was not ? :blush:
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Why would someones ignorance be my responsibility ? Maybe this was something planned before and these persons who murdered the woman were al-q members paid by someones. Lets prove it was not ? :blush:
And I could be a frighteningly intelligent species of squid. But no rational person would bank on it. This situation is similar. This is not the first time a group of fundamentalists, Islamic or otherwise, burned someone to death for insulting their favorite(and a lot of the time only) book.
 
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