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Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Hello, my Muslim brothers and sisters. I have spent the morning over on another forum where I have been the subject of intense harrassment and ridicule at the hands of some of my fellow Christians. Over lunch, I mentioned to my husband that some of the nicest people I have come to know on either of the religion sites I post on regularly are the Muslim posters. Since I mentioned it to him, I thought it wouldn't hurt to mention it to you, too. There are some of you who only post on the Islam DIR and whom I probably have had very little interaction with. Others of you post on some of the same forums I do. With very few exceptions, I have found you to be courteous, civil and respectful. I just wanted to tell you that and tell you how much I have appreciated it.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you suppose that they're hostile because you're so similar in beliefs, that they think there should be no differences?
 

Peace

Quran & Sunnah
Hello, my Muslim brothers and sisters. I have spent the morning over on another forum where I have been the subject of intense harrassment and ridicule at the hands of some of my fellow Christians. Over lunch, I mentioned to my husband that some of the nicest people I have come to know on either of the religions sites I post on regularly are the Muslim posters. Since I mentioned it to him, I thought it wouldn't hurt to mention it to you, too. There are some of you who only post on the Islam DIR and whom I probably have had very little interaction with. Other of you post on some of the same forums I do. With very few exceptions, I have found you to be courteous, civil and respectful. I just wanted to tell you that and tell you how much I have appreciated it.

Thank you dear Katzpur for your nice message, we appreciate it!! You are a nice person too :hug:
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
Thanks a lot dear Katz, :) and I really think you are one of the most decent and respectful members.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
thank you Katzpur for your nice words.
sorry to hear about the rough time you are having at the other forum.
 

Cordoba

Well-Known Member
Nice of you to mention that Katzpur

I recently heard someone say that Mormons and Muslims have a lot in common (he was a Muslim speaker but I can't remember who it was, with so much information being exchanged these days)

Maybe we should promote more Mormon - Muslim dialogue?

What do you think?
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Nice of you to mention that Katzpur

I recently heard someone say that Mormons and Muslims have a lot in common (he was a Muslim speaker but I can't remember who it was, with so much information being exchanged these days)

Maybe we should promote more Mormon - Muslim dialogue?

What do you think?
I think it's pretty clear that both of our religions are greatly misunderstood and perhaps even hated. That is really tragic, in my opinion. I do think we have a lot in common, although there are undoubtedly some significant differences between our religions, too. Several years back, a Muslim posted something on RF. I'm sorry, but I can't remember who it was and I don't even know if he or she is still posting. I was so impressed by the post, though, and it struck me that it could have been said, almost verbatim, by a Mormon poster. I liked it so much that I save it. This is what it said:

I know what my purpose on earth is and I know what I'm allowed to do and what I'm prohibited from doing. I have a solid moral system, where I don't make up my own system of what’s right and wrong but I have it from the creator. I have a sense of cleanliness and modesty. I know my obligations to those less fortunate than me in both knowledge and wealth. I know what happens to my soul after it leaves my body and the questions it'll be asked, I also know the torments of the disbeliever and the temporary punishment for the sinning believer. I know what awaits the believers in paradise.

In short there isn't an aspect in my life that isn't governed by religion, I mean EVERY aspect of my life is inspired by religion.


I am personally aware of some of the similarities between our religions. Here are some of them:

1. Both of them represent a way of life, not merely adherance to a recited creed. Both of us are deeply committed to our customs, values and lifestyles. Both our religions prohibit alcohol. Both require fasting and prayer. Both expect modesty in dress, an emphasis on the family, obedience to parents, and a concern for the poor and the elderly.

2. In both our traditions, God is a revelator. He is at the core of our faith.

3. We both believe in a physical resurrection of the dead.

4. Both of us believe in prophets who revealed new scripture and whom we believe to have been divinely inspired.

5. Both of us are strongly opposed to the use of idols and mystical symbols in our worship and prayers. We stress simplicity of form in our art and architecture.

6. There are passages in the Qur'an that have special doctrinal interest to Mormons.

I certainly hope this thread doesn't turn into a debate over any of these points. It was actually only my intention to drop by and tell you all how nice you've been to Mormons on the forum. I think that when dialogue can build bridges of understanding and mutual respect, it's a good thing. People don't have to agree on every point of doctrine in order to learn from one another.
 
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sandandfoam

Veteran Member
I have found you to be courteous, civil and respectful. I just wanted to tell you that and tell you how much I have appreciated it.

I have found the same. The other day I was reading in the 'paper about a lady from Belfast who reverted to Islam, she said the attitiude of individual Muslims she had encountered had played a big part in her decision to revert. She specifically mentioned the courteous and civil nature of her interaction with Muslims.


I admire Muslims and Islam too.
 

Peace

Quran & Sunnah
I think it's pretty clear that both of our religions are greatly misunderstood and perhaps even hated. That is really tragic, in my opinion. I do think we have a lot in common, although there are undoubtedly some significant differences between our religions, too. Several years back, a Muslim posted something on RF. I'm sorry, but I can't remember who it was and I don't even know if he or she is still posting. I was so impressed by the post, though, and it struck me that it could have been said, almost verbatim, by a Mormon poster. I liked it so much that I save it. This is what it said:

I know what my purpose on earth is and I know what I'm allowed to do and what I'm prohibited from doing. I have a solid moral system, where I don't make up my own system of what’s right and wrong but I have it from the creator. I have a sense of cleanliness and modesty. I know my obligations to those less fortunate than me in both knowledge and wealth. I know what happens to my soul after it leaves my body and the questions it'll be asked, I also know the torments of the disbeliever and the temporary punishment for the sinning believer. I know what awaits the believers in paradise.

In short there isn't an aspect in my life that isn't governed by religion, I mean EVERY aspect of my life is inspired by religion.


I am personally aware of some of the similarities between our religions. Here are some of them:

1. Both of them represent a way of life, not merely adherance to a recited creed. Both of us are deeply committed to our customs, values and lifestyles. Both our religions prohibit alcohol. Both require fasting and prayer. Both expect modesty in dress, an emphasis on the family, obedience to parents, and a concern for the poor and the elderly.

2. In both our traditions, God is a revelator. He is at the core of our faith.

3. We both believe in a physical resurrection of the dead.

4. Both of us believe in prophets who revealed new scripture and whom we believe to have been divinely inspired.

5. Both of us are strongly opposed to the use of idols and mystical symbols in our worship and prayers. We stress simplicity of form in our art and architecture.

6. There are passages in the Qur'an that have special doctrinal interest to Mormons.

I certainly hope this thread doesn't turn into a debate over any of these points. It was actually only my intention to drop by and tell you all how nice you've been to Mormons on the forum. I think that when dialogue can build bridges of understanding and mutual respect, it's a good thing. People don't have to agree on every point of doctrine in order to learn from one another.

5.

I am glad dear Katzpur that we have some similarities between our religions.
We have no intention to turn this into a debate because it's good and fruitful to have dialogue and interract with no debating.

May Allah bless you!
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
I am glad dear Katzpur that we have some similarities between our religions.
We have no intention to turn this into a debate because it's good and fruitful to have dialogue and interract with no debating.

May Allah bless you!
And you too, Peace!
 

Bismillah

Submit
Thank you very much for the kind words, I find Mormons to be hands down the most decent Americans I have met and I find there humility very admirable.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
one big similarity between us is that we live life according to what our religion says. unfortunately i didn't know this about mormons and when one of my friends said to me that he doesn't drink alcohol just like muslims, i started laughing at him. (didn't know he was a mormon though nor did i know anything about the faith itself). i was never used to hearing a non-muslim say that he doesn't drink alcohol because his religion forbids it. i met these mormons at work when i started my new job, there were about 5/6 of them in a company of 170. and honestly speaking, they were the friendliest non-muslims that i have ever come across. they were respectful, caring, well manered and very much like muslims. one of them always used to say "Selamu Alejka" to me everytime he saw me. he never greeted me in any other way.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
How nice of you. Too bad that I don't get a long with the majority of Muslims I've encountered so far.

why don't you stick to the minority that you do get along with?

thats what i would do. alot of people that i work with are people who believe in the bible as the book of god, most of them are very rude people, very immature, very uncivilised, but i stick to those that are nice and respectful. although that number is very small i don't judge everyone with the doings of some idiots. but thats just me.
 

ConfusedKuri

Active Member
why don't you stick to the minority that you do get along with?

thats what i would do. alot of people that i work with are people who believe in the bible as the book of god, most of them are very rude people, very immature, very uncivilised, but i stick to those that are nice and respectful. although that number is very small i don't judge everyone with the doings of some idiots. but thats just me.

I don't have a minority of Muslim friends I get along with eselam, I cut down all of my contacts or they stopped being friends with me the moment I left orthodoxy. If I go to see them they'll just lecture me on my irreligiousity and I don't think that is helpful.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
i do not know of your situation. so i can't say anything. if youd like to share your story with us that will be nice. then i might be able to say something.
 
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