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Metallica - Pre Black Album or...?

Which Metallica years do you prefer...

  • Pre Black album (1980s)

    Votes: 8 44.4%
  • Black album and beyond (1990 - )

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • I like both

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • I don't like Metallica

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • Metallica who... (I'm about to listen to the Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets albums...)

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Dave Mustaine wrote all those solos, Hammett just stepped in and played them. Mustaine got angry, decided to stick it to Ulrich and Hetfield and thus, Megadeth was born...

Most folk I know who know Metallica only know black album and later stuff barring a couple like Fade to Black and One. Quite surprised at the responses so far TBH, excluding YmirGF of course :D

Mustaine failed. I hate hate hate Megadeth. I wish Mustaine stayed, thus i would not be subjected to such ear-raping *metal.*

Musical mastery or not, nothing about that band appeals to me.
 

ChrisP

Veteran Member
Mustaine failed. I hate hate hate Megadeth. I wish Mustaine stayed, thus i would not be subjected to such ear-raping *metal.*

Musical mastery or not, nothing about that band appeals to me.
Not a huge fan either. I like a few tracks like Hanger 18 and Tornado of Souls. Saw Megadave live last year, opening for Slayer in Auckland, was an epic gig. Not as epic as the 20 year anniversary Reign in Blood concert not long after in Aussie though... anyone make that?
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Not a huge fan either. I like a few tracks like Hanger 18 and Tornado of Souls. Saw Megadave live last year, opening for Slayer in Auckland, was an epic gig. Not as epic as the 20 year anniversary Reign in Blood concert not long after in Aussie though... anyone make that?

Nah i missed the 20 year tour :(

Saw the one before it though with Mastadon. Slayer are fantastic live. I don't think i've ever seen anything quite like it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Master of Puppets - IMO, their best album. Every track is a unique masterpiece. Very fun album to play along with if you're a guitar palyer.
It's also hella fun, and challenging, for us bassist. Not as fun as Ride The Lightning though.

Musical mastery or not, nothing about that band appeals to me.
I'm a huge Megadeth fan. Peace Sells, Hangar 18, Sweating Bullets, Go To Hell, and lots of other great songs.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
ChrisP said:
Dave Mustaine wrote all those solos, Hammett just stepped in and played them.
Shadow Wolf said:
That was David Mustaine.

Dave Mustaine constructed solos for Kill 'em All, but Kirk did his own solos for the recording. The only parts from Mustaine's solos that Kirk used were the lead ins to the actual solos; The rest of the solos were pretty much improv's from Kirk, seeing as he had only been in the band for not even a month and had about a week to record them.

Shadow Wolf said:
Even many riffs and solos on Ride The Lightning were wrote by Mustaine. The first all Kirk Hammett album was Master of Puppets
Again, same deal here with the solos, probably even less so from what I remember reading Kirk Hammet say about it. But this was definitely less of a Mustaine influence. Mustaine was only involved with 2 songs: Ride the Lightning and Call of Ktulu.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
As mainly a bassist every time i see the tabs for Battery i shudder...... not fun on the ends of your fingers this one... well that is if you're playing it properly.
I thought Cliff switched between fingers and a pick, so maybe he used a pick on that one. I know I couldn't do it without a pick. :eek:

Cliff was just a monster on the bass, though.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Shadow Wolf said:
It's also hella fun, and challenging, for us bassist. Not as fun as Ride The Lightning though.
Really? I'd think Orion alone would be fun enough, but I can see myself having a good time with songs like For Whom the Bell Tolls and Ktulu.

How about Anesthesia/Pulling Teeth? :p

Shadow Wolf said:
I'm a huge Megadeth fan. Peace Sells, Hangar 18, Sweating Bullets, Go To Hell, and lots of other great songs.
I love Megadeth. Good Mourning/Black Friday, Hangar 18, Take No Prisoners, Architecture of Aggression...even their new album kicks some serious butt. :)

I also think that Dave Ellefson is a very underrated bass player.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I thought Cliff switched between fingers and a pick, so maybe he used a pick on that one. I know I couldn't do it without a pick. :eek:
Burton used his fingers. Such is the reason I also use my fingers on base. Myself, for some reason I get very confused on which string I am strumming when I try to use a pick. But since I play better, and can perform more complicated techniques with my fingers, I just don't use a pick. Many people have told me to start using one, and some have suggested it, but I just don't like to.
Really? I'd think Orion alone would be fun enough, but I can see myself having a good time with songs like For Whom the Bell Tolls and Ktulu.
Orion and Ktulu are both alittle challenging to learn, but equally fun to play. For Whom The Bell Tolls is alright. It's rather repetitive, but a very good warm-up and beginners song. Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) though, well....that song is just straight up HARD. It took me months to finally get that song down. I just took it one measure at a time until I could play it all. Although I find the intro to Symphony X's Sea of Lies much more difficult, but only because it makes some very large jumps on the fret board very quickly.

I also think that Dave Ellefson is a very underrated bass player.
He has his moments, but when he has them, they are great. Go To Hell is one of my favorites, but I'd have to say the best is probably Train of Consequences.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
I thought Cliff switched between fingers and a pick, so maybe he used a pick on that one. I know I couldn't do it without a pick. :eek:

Cliff was just a monster on the bass, though.

Pick bassing is way hard and sounds funny.

The only song i need to use a pick for is Maxwell Murder by Rancid.

That was just your life rivals battery in finger soreness in many ways. Battery is easier though, its just fast.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Well, obviously the pre black album years are considered classical. however I love the black album and I graft it by grace :D
I was even forgiving when Load came out, unlike many other people who loudly announced that this is not Metallica anymore. however Im unversed on the albums after Reload.
Ride the lightning, And justice for all, Master of Puppets, and yes the black album are all Metallica at its might for me.
 

ChrisP

Veteran Member
Their latest is worth a listen, if only for the solos. The rest of the band sounds like Nickelback now...
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
My theory on the recording and writing of Death Magnetic is they told Kirk just to do what he does best, and they put him on record. After he spent some time shredding in the studio, Hetfeld, Ulrich, and Trujilo wrote more post-Burton crap to go along with Kirks legendary abilities. The result is an album that is pretty good, as long as you can block out the bass, drums, and rhythm guitar.
 

ChrisP

Veteran Member
My theory on the recording and writing of Death Magnetic is they told Kirk just to do what he does best, and they put him on record. After he spent some time shredding in the studio, Hetfeld, Ulrich, and Trujilo wrote more post-Burton crap to go along with Kirks legendary abilities. The result is an album that is pretty good, as long as you can block out the bass, drums, and rhythm guitar.
Yeah I've always thought, since the first listen, that it was an apology to Kirk for St Anger...
 
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