John D. Brey
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All we really need to know is that we have desires and preferences, we make decisions, and we experience sensory perceptions of outcomes. Exactly what underlies all of this is secondary. Whatever we think is true about what underlies the world we perceive, it is only a model for understanding what goes on in here. That is, the subjective is the realm we are inextricably immersed in and the one that matters most. The world we conceive of existing outside our minds and being the object of our subjective apprehensions - objective reality as we conceive of it - is of secondary importance There's a pervasive view that that world out there is more real than this one in here, and in here is only a faint projection of that, and thus secondary to it, derivative.
What Popper pointed out is that the "subjective" world of man, impregnates the so-called, and alleged, objective world, and thereby, through subjective desires, beliefs, motives and actions, helps to create the so-called, and believed, external world.
Quantum physics tried to help the layman understand that there is no outside, external world. As I quoted Professor Lewontin saying, we create our world out of bits and pieces of external reality. It's that world created by us, that we inhabit, and not some external reality that exist without us.
To describe what has happened, one has to cross out that old word `observer’ and put in its place the new word `participator.’ In some strange sense the universe is a participatory universe.
John Wheeler.
John Wheeler.
Wheeler also asked what quantum physics tells us about the world that Bishop of the Church, Berkeley, didn't tell three hundred years ago.
Christians and Jews have been told that this is a participatory world, that their thoughts and actions feedback into the world in a real way, since the days of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And all the great originators of the modern, scientific, world, were theistic believers.
In his latter days, this all began to come home to Popper. And it was a bitter pill to swallow, since the Christianizing Wittgenstein had been trying to get him to swallow that from the start of their relationship. A joint acquaintance, Bertrand Russell, said he tired of Wittgenstein telling him that he'd do better to convert to Christianity since, in Wittgenstein's mind, Russell's grasp of philosophy was something like a vomitive.
But this attitude misses the fact that it doesn't really matter how accurate our understanding of what is out there is if the model we are using allows us to effectively navigate the experience of consciousness over time in a way that facilitates desirable outcomes and avoids undesirable ones. That is, if you one day discovered that your model of reality was an illusion - perhaps we are brains in vats, or Descartes' demon is manipulating out experience to appear that there is something else besides that demon outside of mind, nothing changes.
It's not until a person realizes he has power over not only his own subjective reality, not only over the so-called real world external to him, but over the worlds of the future forever and ever world without end, that he has the motivation to work his brain to the fever point to do his part in elevating the world to where it's going to get to with our without his participation.
The Bible is clear that notwithstanding the power of the human mind, even it can't perceive even a mustard seed sized slice of what God has prepared for those who love him, and show they do by doing their part in the erection of his glorious kingdom.
Not that he needs them, me, you, or anyone. It's merely a phenomenon of his grace, power, and mercy, that he allows creatures of flesh, living in soil pottery, to take part in something no mind today has an inkling concerning it's unfathomable greatness.
John