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Metaphysics?

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Sure. Very opinionated scientists think that F=MA.

Or that gravity, rather than being a force of attraction between two objects (directly proportional to the sum of their mass, and inversely proportional to the the square of the distance between them), is really the distortion of space time created by mass and energy.

Somewhat inconveniently for cosmologists, neither Newton nor Einstein’s equations work at the quantum level, leaving black hole and Big Bang singularities as incomprehensible mysteries, but string theorists and loop quantum gravity proponents are working on that. Here’s a physicist who has spent much of his professional life developing the latter;

“We fall in love with our own ideas…which we cling to like children to sweets…at the same time, deep in our hearts, doubt is never quelled…the fear that we are wrong, that we are deluded…bitter sweet is science.”

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Carlo Rovelli, White Holes - Inside the Horizon
 
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wellwisher

Well-Known Member
What do people think about Metaphysics?

How does your tradition, religion, or belief system use Metaphysics? What role do they play for you?

I am especially interested in Metaphysics as in the "a priori speculation upon questions that are unanswerable to scientific observation, analysis, or experiment"
When we encounter new things, they can have an impact on us at an unconscious level. For some, the impact is often the primitive fear of novelty; fight or flight. But for others it is about trying to connect, what we are internally experiencing, to what we already know. Or in the case of science, we also poke and prod the new, to see what happens, so we can better characterize the unknown. Metaphysic is sort of the unconscious processing that occurs before we reach a point of acceptance; what we expect things to be.

If you can accept we have two centers of consciousness; ego and inner self, the metaphysical aspects of life would be connected to the data processing of the inner self, that processes realty apart from the ego based on a natural matrix. But if you believe there is only one center; ego or conscious mind, the extra processing beyond the ego becomes repressed and projected and is explained as coming from outside; helpful or harmful spirits.

Science denies metaphysics, not because science does not project, but because projections are not really there, outside us, to be investigated as matter. These metaphysical effects need to address from within, which conflicts with the philosophy of science and atheist metaphysics of just the ego. Some religions allow for projection and metaphysics of the inner self; inner man. Projection is often used to help map out what is inside, so the two can agree; balance of natural and manmade.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
When we encounter new things, they can have an impact on us at an unconscious level. For some, the impact is often the primitive fear of novelty; fight or flight. But for others it is about trying to connect, what we are internally experiencing, to what we already know. Or in the case of science, we also poke and prod the new, to see what happens, so we can better characterize the unknown. Metaphysic is sort of the unconscious processing that occurs before we reach a point of acceptance; what we expect things to be.

If you can accept we have two centers of consciousness; ego and inner self, the metaphysical aspects of life would be connected to the data processing of the inner self, that processes realty apart from the ego based on a natural matrix. But if you believe there is only one center; ego or conscious mind, the extra processing beyond the ego becomes repressed and projected and is explained as coming from outside; helpful or harmful spirits.

Science denies metaphysics, not because science does not project, but because projections are not really there, outside us, to be investigated as matter. These metaphysical effects need to address from within, which conflicts with the philosophy of science and atheist metaphysics of just the ego. Some religions allow for projection and metaphysics of the inner self; inner man. Projection is often used to help map out what is inside, so the two can agree; balance of natural and manmade.
That's pretty well said. The metaphysical realm is the realm of cognition and ideation. It's the realm that transcends physicality and then looks back at it: experiences it and tries to understand it as an idea rather than just phenomena.
 
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