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Michelle Obama in Kamala-zoo, MI

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ha ha!
Michelle Obama won't be as gushing in wealth as your beloved Trump or Musk!

Is that how you see yourself and the American people......poor commoners?
Yep I can tell you I'm about as common or as commoner as one can get , short of course then those who are what you would classify as completely devastated.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Ha ha!
Michelle Obama won't be as gushing in wealth as your beloved Trump or Musk!

Is that how you see yourself and the American people......poor commoners?
Yes that is exactly how MAGAs see themselves, poor commoners that the intellectuals and elites take advantage of so they have this Robbing Hood fantasy that an actor clown will save them and all the maids will swoon. Comes when TikTok is high culture.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yep I can tell you I'm about as common or as commoner as one can get , short of course then those who are what you would classify as completely devastated.
Really! You live in one of the fattest and wealthiest countries in the World, and here you are, pretending to be a pauper.
You just don't know when you're better off than most.
If you can keep warm, well fed and safe then you're well-to-do in comparison with so many.

You mumble sarcastic comments about Michelle Obama but you need to remember that she was your country's First Lady for eight years, and if she can't afford the kind of lifestyle that your stars and celebrities enjoy then who can?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
You mean the ability to kill unborn children whenever a woman wants, yes?

Abortion is not healthcare.
Women do NOT do that, they don't get to 8 months and think, "Do you know what, I don't want this child". Exaggerating the issue does you no favours, if Harris wins, it will be because of the GOP's women's health care policies.
Abortion can be health care. I am not pro-abortion BUT it should never be removed as an option.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Women do NOT do that, they don't get to 8 months and think, "Do you know what, I don't want this child". Exaggerating the issue does you no favours, if Harris wins, it will be because of the GOP's women's health care policies.
Abortion can be health care. I am not pro-abortion BUT it should never be removed as an option.
I hate it when people can't just look at the numbers and admit that they're exaggerating.

The vast majority of abortions occur during the first trimester of a pregnancy. In 2021, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and about 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 40 states and New York City, but not the rest of New York.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I hate it when people can't just look at the numbers and admit that they're exaggerating.

The vast majority of abortions occur during the first trimester of a pregnancy. In 2021, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and about 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 40 states and New York City, but not the rest of New York.
Every time I show this data to pro-lifers I get two responses:

1. The CDC lies

2. One abortion in the third trimester is too many.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Most abortions are not done because the actual health of the mother is at risk. Also way less than 1 percent of abortions are done because of rape. Same with incest. I don't have an issue with the actual health of the mother or even rape or incest (though I probably would not choose that route for me personally).
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
"God is Choosing..."

I do not understand your (seemingly) twisted theology.

Do you think God is some creature sitting on a cloud making such choices?
God is supposedly all powerful and all knowing and all is according to his will. So, yes, I think whether a miscarriage happens is 100% within god’s choice.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
God is supposedly all powerful and all knowing and all is according to his will. So, yes, I think whether a miscarriage happens is 100% within god’s choice.

Again, I do not understand your theology. But if what you profess works for you, then...OK good luck.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
"God is Choosing..."

I do not understand your (seemingly) twisted theology.

Do you think God is some creature sitting on a cloud making such choices?
As you might be aware, atheists have a hard time understanding just what God is -- because the more Christians, Jews and Muslims we ask, the more conflicting answers we get!

Why don't you give us your version: the nature of God; God's purpose for the world; God's impact on the world; what believers should think about God; whether intercessory prayer can have any meaning, given your view of God; and so forth.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Women do NOT do that, they don't get to 8 months and think, "Do you know what, I don't want this child". Exaggerating the issue does you no favours, if Harris wins, it will be because of the GOP's women's health care policies.
Abortion can be health care. I am not pro-abortion BUT it should never be removed as an option.
Ironically if Republicans were truly antiabortion they would support Planned Parenthood. Statistics show lower abortion rates in areas with a Planned Parenthood office because the main part of their services is preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Does Trump need and require ex-presidents and ex first ladies to simp for him?

We all know that the person on the losing side is the one desperate enough to have that kind of help, and proves without a question that that person just can't handle the job.

This is an interesting way to spin the fact that of all the people who know best what it takes to be a good president, none of them think Trump would make a good president.
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
This is an interesting way to spin the fact that of all the people who know hest what it takes to be a good president, none of them think Trump would make a good president.
Sadly, you've missed understanding that @Twilight Hue thinks himself to be one of those who know best what it takes to be a good President. It's all about who would make his life better. The rest of the world is not part of the equation.
 
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