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Mickiel's proof of God.

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mickiel

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Of course, since there are people more intelligent than yourself who see no evidence of god, the hubris of the True Believer compels you to imagine that your intellect is somehow "truer" than theirs. :rolleyes:

No intelligent person can look at life and see no evidence of God. Now athiest can look at life and see no evidence of God.


Yes, I think I probably am. Romance is a confluence of biochemistry, wishful thinking, and desire, and while that can be immensely interesting-- and while it makes romance an apt metaphor for certain kinds of religion -- romance is still much less to be desired than love.


Well, there you have it, romance, comming from a queer atheist. And you had the nerve to say that comming from me who had three divorces , i am not in a position to speak on Romance. Now you want me to accept that a queer atheist is more able to speak on it.

Will wonders never cease.

Peace.
 

Smoke

Done here.
And you had the nerve to say that comming from me who had three divorces , i am not in a position to speak on Romance.
That is not what I said. I said that a man who has had three wives and loved none of them is not in a position to judge the relationships of others. And he is not.
 

mickiel

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That is not what I said. I said that a man who has had three wives and loved none of them is not in a position to judge the relationships of others. And he is not.


You didnot say judge the relationship of others, you said speak on, or pontificate on the relationship of others. I am not judging anyones relationship. I am weaving a post about romance being a proof of God. You, being an Atheist, willnot be able to see any reason in this Romance Post about God. You do not see God. You , being a Queer, may see Romance, but you being an Atheist will not see God.

So this post is not for you. You willnot be able to see any reason in my points, you just won't.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Dig it Smoke, I uderstand. Still, its was nice.

Peace.


Well Atheist aside, If I may continue with Romance being a proof of God;


You know what means more to me than my Family, money, or my car, or my apartment, or my Job, or anythingelse physical? You know what takes presedence over every single thing in my Life? How I feel. What do I think about it, how does it move my mind and heart? My emotional content literally rules my Life as it relates with my mind. Maturity plus emotion plus intelligence should always equal a good decision.

But you know, you have to be for real when Romance is involved, you have to keep the mind and heart focused. Now believing in God is no different, lets just be real about it. Atheist are saying God is imaginary, well I understand that, I believe in God, but I have never seen him. I have done extensive studies in Biblical Archaeology, that has proved Gods existence to me, and that personal study is ongoing, because they unearth more evidence every year. But I really use my own mind as proof of Gods existence. My own reasonings. My own sense.

And the list of proof goes beyond romance, it can be as simple as a Spider I once ran accross. I was living in Detroit, and Chicargo was over 200 miles away. They found that a certain Spider specific to Chicargo, or orginating from that area, would climb up high on a riveredge building, spin its web into the air, and float on its web, over the river, and travel over 200 miles to Detroit before it landed. And I thought to myself, there must be a God somewhere. Simply incredible, and just as incredible, Atheist think that this kind of marvel developed on its own, not by design. I can feel the power of a being that designed this incredible Spider. I can actually sense that God is there.

I haven't seen him, or heard him, but I can sense him, just as I can sense other things as well. I can sense when a woman Loves me, or cares about me. I can tell. Its the same thing with God, I can sense his helping here and there, controlling the events in my life, manipulating my mind. Yet he stays away from me, keeps his distance, but I know hes there. I just kind of know it. I also can sense what I don't know.

Theres a lot about God that I just don't know, senses or not. I think he is the key to Life.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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One thing that strengthens Romance is Communication, thats why this world does not know its Lover God. We have no communication with him. And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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One thing that strengthens Romance is Communication, thats why this world does not know its Lover God. We have no communication with him. And I want to go into that.

Peace.


In my view, God does not speak to any human, in fact I think thats one of the things Jesus did for God, speak for him. If God exist, he indeed must be unique, in that nothingelse is like him. He is the only uncreated being there is. He's always been alive, which is just hard to imagine. There is none above him, and all things are subject to him. Could you just imagine what it would be like to be married to someone like that?

Or be a child of someone like that. And that really is how the Angelic world views humanity, they know the affection God has toward us. We just don't know it. The main reason we don't know it, is because God basically has cut off all communication with humanity, and only his Spokesman, Jesus, will communicate. But Jesus stopped his personal communication with humanity when he left the earth, but he did say that he would send his Holy Spirit to earth to comfort us.

And just what did he mean by that? Because its important in this Romance with God to understand this at least a little bit.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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In my view, God does not speak to any human, in fact I think thats one of the things Jesus did for God, speak for him. If God exist, he indeed must be unique, in that nothingelse is like him. He is the only uncreated being there is. He's always been alive, which is just hard to imagine. There is none above him, and all things are subject to him. Could you just imagine what it would be like to be married to someone like that?

Or be a child of someone like that. And that really is how the Angelic world views humanity, they know the affection God has toward us. We just don't know it. The main reason we don't know it, is because God basically has cut off all communication with humanity, and only his Spokesman, Jesus, will communicate. But Jesus stopped his personal communication with humanity when he left the earth, but he did say that he would send his Holy Spirit to earth to comfort us.

And just what did he mean by that? Because its important in this Romance with God to understand this at least a little bit.

Peace.


The Holy Spirit, just what is that. Well I think its just another worn out claim that a lot of people are making. They all are saying that they have Gods Spirit, and I don't believe any of them. I doubt very seriously if God has started giving out his Spirit in this age yet, perhaps thats the greatest reason this world has no Romance with God.

But I want to get into the signs of Romance with God, or the true signs of having his Holy Spirit.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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What is this " Spirit of God?" This force that everyone Covets. This element of the Spirit that one would have you believe, from their testemony, is living inside of them. The bottomline best way to determine that people are what they say they are, is by how they live, AND, how they live as compared to Gods Word. There is no way around this.

In 1John 5:4, it says that whoever is " Born of God", Overcomes the World! If someone is Born of God, I think it fair to say that they have his Holy Spirit. Its just a New Birth, a new nature, a new strength, a new Power now is in you. And because of this Power, this individual will be now immune to the Darkness that is this World. They have Overcomed, graduated to an area of being untouchable. Now I don't know anyone like this, I certainly am not like this, but this IS the biblical discription of a person who has Gods Spirit.

Now a person can have a " Perceived Romance" with God, but conversely just not have the Power, the Evidence, the Personal Living and State of Overcomming in their Lives that bears out being in this place of the New Birth. And believers who do not measure up to this, constantly try to water down the meaning of the Scripture in order to " Fit their Lives into it." It is then a Perceived Romance and not a true Relationship. In true relationship, both sides are committed and invested.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Jesus compared people with the Holy Spirit to being the Salt of the Earth, and the Light of the World, like a City on a hill that cannot be hidden, Matt. 5:13-14. I mean whoever these people will be, they will be like nonelse on earth. They will be tasteful, different, and they will " Stand Out". There will be do denying them.

There are no people like this on earth now. Not if you use this comparrison made by Christ.

Oh but if you go by what people "Say", oh then we have a lot who profess to be these people.

You can take any christian you know, right now, and place them in any neighborhood on earth, and they willNOT stand out. They'll just be like any other human on earth, and blend right in. They will not be like this salt Jesus spoke of, if anything, they will begin to condemn the people in the neighborhood.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Jesus compared people with the Holy Spirit to being the Salt of the Earth, and the Light of the World, like a City on a hill that cannot be hidden, Matt. 5:13-14. I mean whoever these people will be, they will be like nonelse on earth. They will be tasteful, different, and they will " Stand Out". There will be do denying them.

There are no people like this on earth now. Not if you use this comparrison made by Christ.

Oh but if you go by what people "Say", oh then we have a lot who profess to be these people.

You can take any christian you know, right now, and place them in any neighborhood on earth, and they willNOT stand out. They'll just be like any other human on earth, and blend right in. They will not be like this salt Jesus spoke of, if anything, they will begin to condemn the people in the neighborhood.

Peace.


Is it true Love to condemn someone? Is it romance to tell your mate, your neighbor, your friends that they are doomed?

True Romance has been lost in the lust for condemnation.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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Romance is a proof of God for sure. I have never loved a woman, but have asked women that have loved me how does it feel? What is this love like? How do you know its love? One common thing they all told me was that the thought of the person you love never leaves you. You think about them every day.

Well, the only person I think about everyday is God. And I don't even know him. But I can't get him out of my mind. Then you have these people running around here saying God is not real. Man please, I couldcareless what these people think. I know something has invaded my mind and won't let go. This is no fable, no overblown story, I have heard and read fables, read stories, none of them mean anything to me.

But this thing I have with God is a Romance for sure. Its a drawing, a pull, a force greater than I that compels my mind.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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By your logic, the exceptionally tasty redhead i can't get out of my head is god.

I hope not, she's a BEEEATCH.
-Q


Obviously this is meant to insult the woman, but I think a man who becomes attracted to what you state this woman is, is a weak minded man to begin with.

Peace.
 

mickiel

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LOL yep you've pegged both her and i down.

Your insights are earth shattering.

-Q


Well I am never amzed anymore at the neanderthal thinking man, nor at the woman who would deal with him. Its partly because of the thrist for romance, and the perversion of it.

Peace
 
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