Mickiel's proof of God.

[mickiel]

Pls explain how a scientific explanation of how the diversity of life came about = the end of civilization.

Any civilization that explains away God, that excludes him from existence , has sealed their own fate.

There can be no life without God.

When God is removed from a civilizations history, there is then nothing left to eventually keep them from killing each other. If God does not intervene, a godless civilization would only eventually kill each other. I see the seeds of that self destruction now.

Peace.

 

[BucephalusBB]

Any civilization that explains away God, that excludes him from existence , has sealed their own fate.

There can be no life without God.

When God is removed from a civilizations history, there is then nothing left to eventually keep them from killing each other. If God does not intervene, a godless civilization would only eventually kill each other. I see the seeds of that self destruction now.

Peace.

You don't want to get into things here. You have formed your opinion and stick to it. :sarcastic

Why on earth would we atheists start killing eachother if that brings disadvantages?

 

[mickiel]

You don't want to get into things here. You have formed your opinion and stick to it. :sarcastic

Why on earth would we atheists start killing eachother if that brings disadvantages?

Both Atheist and Theist will do the Killing. The Killing willnot be limited to anyones belief . The bible reveals that if God didnot come back to earth, that " No Flesh would be saved Alive." Which means if he didnot intervene, we would just kill each other off. The power and ability to do so is being amased by nations now.

Humans have been killing each other for centuries, both Atheist and Theist have participated in it. But now we posses the power to wipe easch other off the face of the globe. Why you cannot see this comming, is of no concern of mine, I see it comming, its developing even now.

Peace.

 

[BucephalusBB]

mickiel, are you trying to understand or are you running your own agenda here?

Both Atheist and Theist will do the Killing. The Killing willnot be limited to anyones belief . The bible reveals that if God didnot come back to earth, that " No Flesh would be saved Alive." Which means if he didnot intervene, we would just kill each other off. The power and ability to do so is being amased by nations now.

You want to understand the atheist by using the bible?
Do you see why I think you don't want to learn here?

Humans have been killing each other for centuries, both Atheist and Theist have participated in it. But now we posses the power to wipe easch other off the face of the globe. Why you cannot see this comming, is of no concern of mine, I see it comming, its developing even now.

Peace.

We have the power to kill more people on a planet with more people? At the end of about every war there are still people left.

But so far, this planet is still gaining people instead of losing them mickiel..

 

[mickiel]

You want to understand the atheist by using the bible?
Do you see why I think you don't want to learn here?

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What makes you think I want to understand the Atheist? Learn about an Atheist, I know what I want to know about Atheist. You misunderstand me, I am not interested in learning about an Atheist. Or a Theist for that matter. You have just brazenly assumed that I want to learn about an Atheist.

Peace.

 

[OmarKhayyam]

Pls explain how a scientific explanation of how the diversity of life came about explains away God. And explaining away the Christian "god" = the end of civilization. ​

Most civilizations have been and ARE non-christian.​

But there are more of us than ever.​

 

[mickiel]

Pls explain how a scientific explanation of how the diversity of life came about explains away God. And explaining away the Christian "god" = the end of civilization. ​

Gods creative ability is the diversity of Life, scientific explination does not include God as creater of the diversity, it gives that credit to evolution. This is as simple an explination as I can give.

God is the beginning of civilization, if you remove him as being the beginning, then the civilization will come to and end. And God will be the end of that civilization, which in fact is part of the destiny of human civilization, it will come to an end.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Most civilizations have been and ARE non-christian.​

But there are more of us than ever.​

I am non christian, and would never want to change that. That is the crowd that Jesus came for, the unbelievers. Not the righteous, but those who dismiss God, THEY are the reason Jesus came.

Peace.

 

[Azakel]

What makes you think I want to understand the Atheist? Learn about an Atheist, I know what I want to know about Atheist. You misunderstand me, I am not interested in learning about an Atheist. Or a Theist for that matter. You have just brazenly assumed that I want to learn about an Atheist.

Peace.

So your here to Preach? You do know that's against the rules right?

 

[BucephalusBB]

What makes you think I want to understand the Atheist? Learn about an Atheist, I know what I want to know about Atheist. You misunderstand me, I am not interested in learning about an Atheist. Or a Theist for that matter. You have just brazenly assumed that I want to learn about an Atheist.

Peace.

You wanted to get into the thought of romance disappearing with theism. Your words only a few pages ago. You appareantly asumed atheism does not contain romance. If you do not want to learn about that part of atheism you are just running your own agenda here and whatever I will say will hit a wall.

So, Am I still welcome in your "getting into it" or should I focus my time on threads in where members actually focus on what I say?

 

[mickiel]

So your here to Preach? You do know that's against the rules right?

I am not a preacher, and I couldcareless for preachers, I hold no use for them. I could also careless about those who would brand me a preacher for their own selfish intents. I come here for the same reason you do, to post my views, but I understand that there will be those who seek to silence me, because my views are strong man.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

You wanted to get into the thought of romance disappearing with theism. Your words only a few pages ago. You appareantly asumed atheism does not contain romance. If you do not want to learn about that part of atheism you are just running your own agenda here and whatever I will say will hit a wall.

So, Am I still welcome in your "getting into it" or should I focus my time on threads in where members actually focus on what I say?

I don't care what you do. I have never stated that Atheism does not contain Romance, because I know it does. And your correct, I do not want to learn more about Atheism, I know enough to suite me. If your looking for a student, I am not the one. Its been nice speaking with you, may you journey well.

Peace.

 

[BucephalusBB]

I don't care what you do. I have never stated that Atheism does not contain Romance, because I know it does. And your correct, I do not want to learn more about Atheism, I know enough to suite me. If your looking for a student, I am not the one. Its been nice speaking with you, may you journey well.

Peace.

A student..
My worst nightmare, people who think like me

But I never knew this was meant as a onedirectional thread, I'll leave you to it..

 

[mickiel]

A student..
My worst nightmare, people who think like me

But I never knew this was meant as a onedirectional thread, I'll leave you to it..

I have placed no limits on any thread I have started. I just place limits on how others try to manipulate me. I willnot be manipulated, nor will I be taught by a human.

I leave you in peace as well.

 

[painted wolf]

Any civilization that explains away God, that excludes him from existence , has sealed their own fate.

There can be no life without God.

Evolution doesn't say there is no god.... it only explains the process of how new species develop over time. But I can see why you would be afraid that it does.
I personally do not require my Creator to be full of wizz-bang miracles...
The fact that we can understand how Creator works doesn't make his work less impressive or inspiring.
But again, I can see why it would cause you discomfort.

When God is removed from a civilizations history, there is then nothing left to eventually keep them from killing each other.

I'm not sure I agree with this... many atheists I know are very moral people.

If God does not intervene, a godless civilization would only eventually kill each other. I see the seeds of that self destruction now.

Civilizations come and go... often due to their own hand. I'm not sure god minds. Civilizations are just collections of the moment and as people change so to do the cultures. In many ways this a healthy process in the long run. Young civilizations are energetic and full of hope for the future... old civilizations tend to become corrupted by their own stagnation.

wa:do

 

[themadhair]

I willnot be manipulated, nor will I be taught by a human.

The irony being that everything you have read and heard that inspired your opinion came from humans.

Which begs the question though – if you will not be taught by a human then why are you participating on a forum of humans????

 

[mickiel]

The irony being that everything you have read and heard that inspired your opinion came from humans.

Which begs the question though – if you will not be taught by a human then why are you participating on a forum of humans????

My opinions about God are not inspiried by any human. My thoughts on Archaeology were inspiered by several Archaeologist, the list stops there. I read no ones books, I study with no one, I use a bible and a dictionary for my personal study. The vast majority of what I have learned about God, has come directly from the bible.

Why am I at this forum, its not to learn, not to teach, I come only to post my views like anyonelse. I don't go to forums to learn, I go to voive my view.

Peace.

 

[Azakel]

The Bible was written be Men. What makes you think there know what the hell they're talking about.

 

[mickiel]

The Bible was written be Men. What makes you think there know what the hell they're talking about.

No need to curse at me, I do not curse at you.
It does not matter to me what you think of the bible, or the way it was conceived. I hold no obligation to convince anyone of the bibles relevance, other than myself.

That being said, I have responded to all Atheist questions and wisecracks, if I may continue with the subject;


Romance is a way of Communication. It can be a very Loving way, and I want to go into how God has expressed his Love to humanity, we are his intended affection.

Peace.

 

[themadhair]

That being said, I have responded to all Atheist questions and wisecracks, if I may continue with the subject;

If by ‘responded’ you mean ‘feigned persecution and ignorance to completely ignore’ then we agree.