Military labels rape victims "crazy".

[Father Heathen]

Rape victims say military labels them 'crazy' - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[beenie]

If proven true (sounds damning as it is), it's disturbing and disgusting.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

It has been going on for decades. And it is not just women who are victims. In the incidences of male on male rape that go on in the military, the victim gets punished.

 

[Mathematician]

I have a feeling reporting any crime that doesn't leave visible marks in the military is probably looked down upon, sadly. There really should be a separate entity that is in charge of these issues.

 

[dawny0826]

I agree with Eugene.

 

[Levite]

Totally unsurprising. Nobody forces the military to face consequences for its actions. Nobody is available to junior officers and enlisted personnel to be impartial ombudsmen, let alone real advocates. And we civilians do nothing: we just let the government throw heaps and heaps of money at the military, and then occasionally cluck and wring our hands when it turns out that no oversight, no consequences, and no restraint of their authority has made the military heartless and machiavellian, as though that couldn't be predicted.

It just amazes me that as many people actually volunteer for service as they do. I wonder how many of them would if we actually had decent education, health care, jobs, and social services for everyone who needed it.....

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Totally unsurprising. Nobody forces the military to face consequences for its actions. Nobody is available to junior officers and enlisted personnel to be impartial ombudsmen, let alone real advocates. And we civilians do nothing: we just let the government throw heaps and heaps of money at the military, and then occasionally cluck and wring our hands when it turns out that no oversight, no consequences, and no restraint of their authority has made the military heartless and machiavellian, as though that couldn't be predicted.

It just amazes me that as many people actually volunteer for service as they do. I wonder how many of them would if we actually had decent education, health care, jobs, and social services for everyone who needed it.....

Eisenhower warned us.

 

[Revoltingest]

Insufficient info. There could be non-discriminatory factors
resulting in disparate effect, yet there was no analysis of this.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Personally I would be inclined towards a little 'friendly fire' if I could not get my grievances aired and addressed properly.

 

[Viker]

I have a feeling reporting any crime that doesn't leave visible marks in the military is probably looked down upon, sadly. There really should be a separate entity that is in charge of these issues.

You are right. Unfortunately there is none unless a civilian is involved. Even then, the military does all it can to sweep the incident under the rug. They remind me of another old prestigious institution I will not mention in this thread.

 

[Songbird]

You are right. Unfortunately there is none unless a civilian is involved. Even then, the military does all it can to sweep the incident under the rug. They remind me of another old prestigious institution I will not mention in this thread.

The National Quilting Association? I knew it. They're always trying to cover something up.

 

[Viker]

The National Quilting Association? I knew it. They're always trying to cover something up.

Yeah, those guys. They are an evil cabal of sexual license.

 

[Kathryn]

In my many, many years around the military, as a military brat, wife, sister, and now mom, I've never found the military to be unresponsive regarding criminal behavior. My son suffers from PTSD and has been treated very fairly. My daughter is active duty military and absolutely LOVES serving (which includes deployments) in the Air Force - and she is an extremely attractive young woman. When I was a military wife and my (now ex) husband was abusive, the military police came and picked him up and restricted him to the barracks on my word alone - and made it very clear that they would gladly press charges if I wanted to do so. I had no physical signs of abuse at the time.

I'm just sayin'.

 

[Mathematician]

In my many, many years around the military, as a military brat, wife, sister, and now mom, I've never found the military to be unresponsive regarding criminal behavior. My son suffers from PTSD and has been treated very fairly. My daughter is active duty military and absolutely LOVES serving (which includes deployments) in the Air Force - and she is an extremely attractive young woman. When I was a military wife and my (now ex) husband was abusive, the military police came and picked him up and restricted him to the barracks on my word alone - and made it very clear that they would gladly press charges if I wanted to do so. I had no physical signs of abuse at the time.

I'm just sayin'.

Yeah, but the two examples you cited don't really pertain to inner-military politics. You were a civilian, and your son wasn't a criminal.

 

[Kathryn]

Yeah, but the two examples you cited don't really pertain to inner-military politics. You were a civilian, and your son wasn't a criminal.

I have asked my daughter repeatedly about "rapes" in the military and she believes the problem is very much exxagerated.

 

[zenzero]

Father Heathen,

Time was citizens world over took US to be a model country for discipline, behavior, treatment of people etc. etc. Its all falling apart?? With the downturn in the economy, such news may be fillers to overshadow reality?? well TRUTH always prevails in the end is understood.

Love & rgds

 

[ChristineES]

It seems they are trying to find excuses to get people out of the service.

 

[zenzero]

Friend Christine,

they are trying to find excuses to get people out of the service.

Not excuses but blackmail. Provide personal services in bed or out of Government service and get a discharge certificate of mental instability??
Not sure what US is going to?? XYZ countries it is understood.

Love & rgds

 

[Kathryn]

ANY huge organization is going to have pockets of corruption, some bad leaders, and some dirty laundry - from Apple to the Army. Anyone looking for an expose' hard enough can find one.

 

[dust1n]

ANY huge organization is going to have pockets of corruption, some bad leaders, and some dirty laundry - from Apple to the Army. Anyone looking for an expose' hard enough can find one.

I would imagine that since someone had to look hard for an expose, they should be commenmorated for their efforts, not brushed aside as exaggerators.