Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
I believe a miracle is a name we give to an event of God's choosing, that coincides with our own desires. That is to say it is not an answer to a prayer but the result of God's own intervention.
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Miracles - always and never
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Some one may be praying for something unlikely to happen .like a dying man to live
against all the odds. the man does live.. God wanted that man to live for his own reasons, may be there was something he had still to do with his life. that he lived was not because of the prayer. God is not at our beck and call. God only answers our prayers for his own reasons.
against all the odds. the man does live.. God wanted that man to live for his own reasons, may be there was something he had still to do with his life. that he lived was not because of the prayer. God is not at our beck and call. God only answers our prayers for his own reasons.
Stormygale
Member
Growing up in a very religiously exercised home, I witnessed miracles. Seriously. I can't explain them, or neither am I sure if they even existed. The mind, when drilled with a certain idea day after day, is bound to follow suit and believe anything that it wants and finds plausible at that moment. I relate most of my experiences to perception...yes, percetion, plain and simple....
MatCauthorn
Member
Could you provide an example of something you witnessed which you now believe (or believed at the time) to be a miracle, and explain why?Stormygale said:
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
I dont think a recipient of a miracle can differentiate. outsiders may say Phew! that was a miracle. Only God would know for sure.michel said:Please don't take offence- I am not trying to 'box you into a corner' - how would you differentiate between the miracle and 'sheer good fortune' ?
I think miracles are rare but not impossible
klubbhead024
Active Member
michel said:I'm not sure if I qualify as a non-believer; to me a miracle is something that happens that is above our area of comprehension.
Bonsoir!
By that definition, there would be no such thing as a miracle. For example, Electricity
No one could have imagined in, say, 1750 that a light would come on with a flick of a finger. However, when electricity did arrive, it was no longer "above our area of comprehension" and therfore could not be a miracle
I'm not a non-believer in god, but I am a non-believer that miracles are magic done by god.justa_gurl said:Non-believers, lend me your cerebral cortexes.
I'd like to hear your definitions of 'Miracle'. Not the definitions of believers but your own, secular ideas. I'd also like to hear if you - based on your definition - believe they:
1) always happen
2) never happen
3) sometimes happen
4) or other
I'm just curious whether or not we have common thoughts on the concept.
Thank you much!
I believe miracles always happen. A miracle is not an event that occurs in the physical world; that would be a natural phenomenon. Things that happen in the physical world that seem magical are not miracles; "miracle" is the meaning we attach to such events. It is a spiritual revelation, that is, something that moves our spirit. They are omens that change the way we look at things in a way that makes us more appreciative of the wonder of the things that are beyond our power.
purplehaze
New Member
justa_gurl said:Non-believers, lend me your cerebral cortexes.
I'd like to hear your definitions of 'Miracle'. Not the definitions of believers but your own, secular ideas. I'd also like to hear if you - based on your definition - believe they:
1) always happen
2) never happen
3) sometimes happen
4) or other
I'm just curious whether or not we have common thoughts on the concept.
Thank you much!
A miracle is the suspension of natural law. That's not my own definition. It's the standard one. If I were to define it myself I would be re-defining it. Therefore, I will go by the standard. That said, they never happen. They are merely based on wishful thinking.