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Yep. (I believe /anyone/ who lives a good life will go to a good place in the afterlife, but I am UU, you know. )Do you think if a Catholic lived a good life of the faith and did all that they felt was right do you believe they will go to heaven?
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YUSUFALI: Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
PICKTHAL: Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.
SHAKIR: Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the f Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
Okay, I'm confused here. Of course I find myself confused quite often when learning about UU beliefs. The UUs here are a terrific bunch of people, so don't misunderstand what I'm saying. But being either a Christian UU or a Muslim UU seems to me to be something of an oxymoron. I mean Christians believe that the only way to God is through His Son Jesus Christ, and Muslims believe that there is only one God (Allah). UUs are so totally "univeralist" (duh!) that it surprises me that a religion that requires you to worship only Allah would accept the UU openness and flexibility. Am I making any sense at all? (I can see UUs accepting Muslims, but not Muslims accepting UUs.)jamaesi said:Yep. (I believe /anyone/ who lives a good life will go to a good place in the afterlife, but I am UU, you know. )
The Truth said:"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers". (Quran 3:85)
Dear Brother, You have asked a very good question, the first part of your question asks about a good life of faith, Allah Says in the QuranVerily by the token of time, man is in error, except those who have faith, and do righteous deeds, enjoin what is good, and invite people to patience(Surah Asr)Coming to the second part, and what if they do what THEY FELT was right, now I have a question for you, who will decide what is right, for example in the East looking at a women and talking to her is considered as Right, in the Middle east even looking at a women is considered immodest, in the West looking, talking, and shaking hands is modest, in some parts of the west doing everything is fine and modest unless and until both the partners are willing. So WHO WILL DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT? For a robber robbing is Right, for a Rapist, Rapping is Right, For a murderer Mudering is Right.For this purpose Almighty God has given us scriptures, like the ones given to David, Moses, Jesus and finally Mohammed.Now the question arisies that there are so many religions in this world, which one should be followed to be on the right path. Christianity says don't rob don't molest any women, Hinduism says don't rob don't molest any women, Islam says don't rob don't molest any women...and so on.But the difference is that, Islam not only tells you what is right and what is wrong, but it also gives a practical way of implementing the Right WayHope that is the answer of your questionTake careRegards,MehroshGeoffthe3rd said:Do you think if a Catholic lived a good life of the faith and did all that they felt was right do you believe they will go to heaven?
Well! I am confused, I would be thankful brother if you put your doubt about Islam in easy words for me to answers...Squirt said:Okay, I'm confused here. Of course I find myself confused quite often when learning about UU beliefs. The UUs here are a terrific bunch of people, so don't misunderstand what I'm saying. But being either a Christian UU or a Muslim UU seems to me to be something of an oxymoron. I mean Christians believe that the only way to God is through His Son Jesus Christ, and Muslims believe that there is only one God (Allah). UUs are so totally "univeralist" (duh!) that it surprises me that a religion that requires you to worship only Allah would accept the UU openness and flexibility. Am I making any sense at all? (I can see UUs accepting Muslims, but not Muslims accepting UUs.)
Judgement Day said:I believe that most of Adam's offsprings will go to heaven (see post #47, 49, 50, 52, and 53 on the 'Day of Judgement(Qiyamah)' thread). BUT, some will go to heaven straightaway while some others will have to transit to hell first:
Hadith Bukhari Volume 9, Book 93, Number 542:
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, "Some people who will be scorched by Hell (Fire) as a punishment for sins they have committed, and then Allah will admit them into Paradise by the grant of His Mercy. These people will be called, 'Al-JahannamiyyLin' (the people of Hell)."(Sahih Bukhari)
Dear Brother The Truth, are you saying that the non Muslims will leave hell one day and hell will be empty?=The TruthNevertheless, most of Muslims and scholars before (Ibn Al-Qayim) believed that the non-muslims will be in hell forever and the Muslims will be in heaven forever but for those whom they were bad Muslims but at least they mentioned the Shahada which is (la elah ella Allah, Mohammed Rasol Allah) so how long they stay in hell so because of this Shahada a day will come for them to enter to heaven after they have been punished for their bad deeds in life.
Squirt said:I can see UUs accepting Muslims, but not Muslims accepting UUs
mehrosh said:Dear Brother The Truth, are you saying that the non Muslims will leave hell one day and hell will be empty?
Peace and Mercy of God be upon you..Thankyou for your clarification...The Truth said:I said one of the scholars claim so bringing that evidence from Quran which is verse 11:107 but this is different that what the majority of Salaf before this scholar believed in. Moreover, this is not for sure but the scholar (Ibn Al-Qyaim) said this is only by the will of Allah if he wants so because his mercy surpase his anger and punishment.
Peace ..
Thankyou for your views Brother....Islam tells us that every human being is born free of sins, no one bears any ones weight and nor will be questioned or punished for anyone. We see Jesus as a messenger of Love, Love and Onness of God was what he preached, Peace and Blessings be upon him. The Quran says that He was not crucified on the Cross rather was raised alive,nor does the Bible says that he was crucified on the Cross, It is the church which teaches this. Well whatever it is, May God save us all from Hell. Regards.Freelancer7 said:Personally, Basis of ALL faiths is pure undivided LOVE and appreciation of the gift of the physical world for our soul (Intillectual energy) to experience. Jesus Christ the son sacraficed himself in the name of sin, so on a later day of Judgement if you understand the suffering, sacrafice and ressurection you will pull through if you have gone against the basic commandments that he gave. Of course if you're from another faith and have done something terrible then think of Christ's sacrafice. If your from any religion or maybe not any set religion but respect the Intelligence of life and have done nothing wrong, then of course, what is there to worry about.
A few sayings that I have that are not my original words but upadted by myself:
Love Your Intelligence,
Love the Intelligence of Life,
Love the Creator of Intelligence, with all your Heart.
Then the Holy Spirit will follow Naturally.
Of course it is a personal point of view.
Assalamualaikum, Brother,The Truth said:Actually, as far as i have been taught that, those 'Al-Jahannamiyyion' are bad Muslims whom their bad deeds are much more than the good so God clean them from their sins in hell then after that they will be sank in a special river (i forrgot it's name) so their burned skin would get it's normal look, then they will enter to heaven.
Judgement Day said:Assalamualaikum, Brother,
Yes thats what Ive been taught as well. The base of my argument is with hadith:
Volume 9, Book 93, Number 575:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
The Prophet said, "Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection), 'O Adam!' Adam will reply, 'Labbaik wa Sa'daik! ' Then a loud Voice will be heard (Saying) 'Allah Commands you to take out the mission of the Hell Fire from your offspring.' " (Sahih Bukhari)
But we arent suppose to judge what Allah can and will do. Remember the story of someone who raped a young woman after she has been buried. She became alive for a split second and talked to the rapist. The rapist ran away crying to Muhammad pbuh and told the story and that he regret. Right away, Muhammad felt disgusted and very angry and told that the place for him is hell and then he sent him away from the house. The rapist got even more sad and cried even louder than before. Allah then told Muhammad pbuh that it is not for Muhammad pbuh to decide a sin or not. Allah will forgive whomever He wants because Allah's mercy is unlimited. Then Muhammad ordered his friends to find that rapist to held prayer together. The rapist died while praying to Allah with a terrifying scream with all his sins forgiven.
Peace and Blessings to you,
JD
Geoffthe3rd said:So in a way would you compare the prophets to our saints?
The prophets are different from saints. The Prophets are in a higher positions, they have perfect manners and are chosen by God to receive His revelation and teach it to people .Saints, however are followers of Prophets, they receive no revelation from God, they are good pious people who obey God commands
No, we pray to no one but to God alone. It's forbidden in Islam to pray to anybody but to Allah, our Creator. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is our Prophet whom we love so dearly and do respect and revere and follow his teaching. We don't worship Him, for there is no one to be worshipped but God the Almighty.Also do you pray to Muhammad (sp)?
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