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Miss Universe vs Miss Universe

kadzbiz

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He may be a decade or more out of touch. For a while very very thin pale models that looked as if they were heroin users were very popular. They were often anorexic and definitely not healthy. The look was called "heroin chic". Luckily it did not last. The fashion industry if anything over compensated. Now there are models that are medically obese. Now if one complains about overweight models one is accused of " fat shaming".
Ugliness and Beauty is subjective. Period.

I used to be into bodybuilding. I enjoyed the 70s bodybuilding the most and 90s was amazing. I lost interest after they made too many categories : under 202 lbs, classic, men's figure, bikini. Too many Arnold Classics
You used to bodybuild and don't understand the difference in the two competitions, thinking that it's "basically a beauty competition"? How can you say that??
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Ugliness and Beauty is subjective. Period.


You used to bodybuild and don't understand the difference in the two competitions, thinking that it's "basically a beauty competition"? How can you say that??

Look at Frank Zane: he was smaller than most bodybuilders and still won Mr Olympia several times


He could easily be a male model
 

kadzbiz

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Look at Frank Zane: he was smaller than most bodybuilders and still won Mr Olympia several times


He could easily be a male model
Bodybuilding isn't just about the size of the muscles. It's about definition and how well the muscles have been formed.
 

kadzbiz

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Why did you write a post that looks like it violates the rules of the forum? Doing so is the same as admitting that you are wrong. You didn't think out your answer properly in your previous post.
Really? Are you sure? Give it some more thought and you might have an epiphany.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
ok ok, obviously your only interest is being the winner, so congratulations, you win.
No, that is projection. That is why you made such a weak post and did not think about why your initial statement was wrong. You could not support your claim properly so you made lame donkeyed post.
 

kadzbiz

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Is it? It seems to be more of an observation. It is rather strange that you said nothing of his personal attacks.
I did not personally attack you at all. I gave you a subjective (albeit rather hilarious) opinion to prove my point regarding ugliness and beauty that you asked me to prove. You on the other hand called me ignorant, a second grader, said I'm a decade or more out of touch, falsely accused me of violating the rules, twice said I'm wrong and accused me of posting "lame donkeyed" posts. Personally, I consider your caustic comments water off a duck's back to me. If you had any idea what I've gone through in my life, you'd realise why you're so insignificant to me. I even awarded you the win, but you still continued your antagonistic retorts.
 
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