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Especially for women
As a woman, consider your concern declined.
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Especially for women
Especially for women
It's actually quite a good decision, especially if the pregnancy would be detrimental to the woman's health or even fatal. In the case of fatally complicated pregnancies, it's a loose-loose situation when a woman and fetus both perish because she could not rid herself of that which was killing her.Especially for women
You did. However, there are 50 embryos in the bag! So, if an embryo and a toddler are to be equally valued as human life, then your choice should be heavily weighted in favor of the bag of embryos, even if you occasionally let your emotions get the better of you, and grabbed the toddler instead.1-I very clearly said that one day I might rescue the toddler the other the magicaly sustained by pixie powder embryos
The sponsors of the amendment are saying they'll try again in six other states.
I'm assuming all those states also allow women to vote, so I'm not too worried.
You did. However, there are 50 embryos in the bag! So, if an embryo and a toddler are to be equally valued as human life, then your choice should be heavily weighted in favor of the bag of embryos, even if you occasionally let your emotions get the better of you, and grabbed the toddler instead.
Your stance-- that you essentially have no preference and would sometimes choose one, sometimes choose another-- would like me claiming that sometimes I would choose to save 50 kids on a school bus and sometimes I would choose to just save one kid. :areyoucra I should overwhelmingly choose to save the 50 kids, in nearly every instance.
Yet you don't. Which is why I believe it shows that the value of a child that is already born is not the same as the value of an embryo.
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Run away family values once again. A proposed amendment to the Mississippi State Constitution would force raped women to bear their rapist's child. What do you make of that?
You would be amazed at humanity's distinct tendency to act against its own interests...
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The bolded, I think, highlights our miscommunication. It's not about whether embryos are a human life or not. Of course they are; the vast majority of pro-choice advocates understand this. The pro-choice argument is not that embryos are not humans; the question is whether they are people. Should they be given the same rights as a person? Do they have the same value as a person? This is the crucial question: value. And your response indicates that no, embryos are not equal in value to a child who has already been born.I could answer all of this by just requoting past posts of me of why there is a distinction and to be fair I kinda lost the spirit of the discussion at least for now upon hearing the veredict, but I will put it this way to you:
If you can choose between two people and you know one of them is surely going to die but you can save one, who do you choose to save:
The one that is going to die a horrible dead in a traumathizing way and leave people who love him weeping in agony, or someone who will die quietly in his sleep and lived happily in a forest and nobody else knew him?
Both are valued as human life, but your answer, of who to save, is not based on who is or is not human life, because there are other factors. For further explanations, you may re-read past answers, I apologize for sounding a little bit pedant but I do feel you are repeating yourself things I already answered
The bolded, I think, highlights our miscommunication. It's not about whether embryos are a human life or not. Of course they are; the vast majority of pro-choice advocates understand this. The pro-choice argument is not that embryos are not humans; the question is whether they are people. Should they be given the same rights as a person? Do they have the same value as a person? This is the crucial question: value. And your response indicates that no, embryos are not equal in value to a child who has already been born.
Should we value the woman's life, over that of the embryo/fetus?
Sure thing, Me. I'm reading it through now.BTW, would you mind keeping on the discussion here ? :
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/123982-abortion-wrong-8.html#post2685372
Basically it is what we are arguing I´ll say, and the "missisipi" thing stopped being the main topic for us some time ago anyways. (least for me)
Sure thing, Me. I'm reading it through now.