In terms of the threat they pose to democracy I've got bigger fish to fry than the others you mentioned as I see it.
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Mitch McConnell will step down as Republican Senate Leader
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Biden probably would not run if Trump was not running again. It seems that the party leadership thinks that he is their best hope. I do not necessarily agree with them, but I can understand that position.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A few less socialists and dimwitted leftists in government can only help.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yep, ya gotta support fascists!
Oh, yeah -- whats really needed are more super-genius, extra honest, far right characters like Marjorie Taylor Greene (Known for: blaming wildfires on secret Jewish space laser; crazy vaccine lies that forced Twitter suspension, etc.), Matt Gaetz (Known for: sex-trafficking allegations; unusually obnoxious Trump adoration), Mitch McConnell (Known for: blocking Merrick Garland from the Supreme Court, saying it was too late; elevating Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court, saying there was plenty of time), Ted Cruz (Known for: insurrection inciter; Cancún vacationer (as Texans died of Covid-19); universal scorn of colleagues), Ron Johnson (Known for: being dumbest person in the Senate; defending Capitol rioters as patriots and saying that if they had been from Black Lives Matter, “I might have been a little concerned” for safety—then denying any “racial” element to his comments), Josh Hawley (Known for: fist-pumping the January 6 insurrectionists; Ivy League populism; desperate pursuit of presidency), Lindsey Graham (Known for: blowing a gasket at Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing; sucking up to Trump after lightly criticizing him). And too many more to mention.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Better than hive minded drones clamering for one voice, one party, one mind , one rule statehood.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Still waiting for someone to produce any Republican on record shouting, "Fascism wins"!Yep, ya gotta support fascists!
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Maybe study it. Here's one excellent source: "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present" by Ruth Ben-Giat.
About the author: Ruth Ben-Ghiat - Wikipedia
Trump's words and actions fit perfectly into what fascists say and do.
You know, you should back that remark up with some data -- or should have the good manners to retract it.
Meantime, I'll do a little of the hard work for you, since I well know by now that you just like getting out your liberal-tarring brush and swinging it generously every-which-way. What follows directly refutes your uninformed statements.
This, from the Chicago Council on Global Affairs: "Republicans are more conservative than Democrats are liberal"
Key FIndings:
- More than two-thirds of Republicans identify as conservative (77%).
- Just over half of Democrats identify as liberal (58%).
- Democrats have become more liberal over time, while the proportion of Republicans who identify as conservative has held steady.
Among Republicans, a lot. The 2022 Chicago Council Survey shows that the large majority of GOP supporters are fairly homogenous in their identification as conservative (77% vs. 23% moderate or liberal in 2022) much as they have been over the past four decades.
Meanwhile, Democrats have become more liberal over time (58% in 2022 compared to 44% in 2004), though the party is still somewhat split between ideologically liberal and moderate or conservative members (42% in 2022).
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yet Democrats so lovingly allow socialists in their ranks without nary a whimper or objection about it.
More than telling of their political ideology than the lies they spew to the contrary.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Yes, Democrats are inclusive and listen to many views to come up with policy that is good for all, not just the wealthy. Why you might even say we are democratic in our ideals. This is a feature not a bug.
That speaks volumes about the value of your opinion.
We Never Know
No Slack
That Trump, Biden, Sanders, Grassley, and a few more should follow his lead should speak volumes.
For one it shows I'm not party bias.
Two it shows I think age is a factor with them all.
Three it shows I think they all should step away.
If it makes you feel better Sinema just did.
We Never Know
No Slack
She isn't a geriatric career politician so it doesn't matter to me what she does.
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Mostly, it shows that you pander to the most stupid and irresponsible of false equivalencies for the most ignorant of reasons.
We Never Know
No Slack
If you say so lol. Go look in the mirror and repeat "I guess I told him" three times. You will feel better.
Oh, do make up your mind, won't you? You just finished saying they're all alike, and now you admit they allow different points of view!
Presently, by the way, there are only 3 "real socialists" (affiliated with Democratic Socialists of America) in the House of Representatives (Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Cory Bush), and about 200 throughout every public office in the United States. Oh, the horror! We're outnumbered! Wherever shall we hide?
You know, it is not altogether a bad thing to allow different voices to express their opinions -- or even try to sway public policy -- so long as it is done democratically and in the end, all concerned parties have their say. And their VOTE. (Although some conservatives, like you, don't think so.)
It is a mistake to imagine that the only goodness in the entire world is Republican. I gave you a short list of some of the worst exceptions to that notion in post #25.