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Mitochondrial Eve is proven to be wife of Adam

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Do not talk to me like a hell damn rude disrespectful troll. You are not troll!!! You are creation of Almighty One!


I have given you far more respect than you have give to anyone. Also you earn disrespect. Don' complain when people respond appropriately. You misunderstood my post at best. Why did you not correct your error?
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
It appears that you cannot follow a conversation. You asked if the Flying Spaghetti Monster was "announced" as being fictitious. I responded "No." meaning that it was not "announced" that way.,
Then it would be non-fictional, so the monster could exist. If even FSM could exist, then the God of the Bible also can.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Then it would be non-fictional, so the monster could exist. If even FSM could exist, then the God of the Bible also can.
As could the God Of Last Thursdayism. Do you believe everything was created Last Thursday? It's just as likely a scenario as that posited in your version of the Bible.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Then it would be non-fictional, so the monster could exist. If even FSM could exist, then the God of the Bible also can.
You don't appear to understand the word "non-fictional". That would mean that it is real.

Here is a clue, just because something is not "announced" as being fictional does not mean that it is non-fictional.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Details are in the file. Enjoy!

By the way, the atheists confess, that they have no idea of God's existence, but they say, that He does not exist. Why do they formulate this by "God is dead", and not by "God is probably dead"?

Last i heard they lived about 100,000 years apart,thats some age gap even by todays standards.

Wrong, there is no proof of gods existence. None. You provide proof and not only will you end atheism you would have the world top religious leaders fighting on your doorstep just to have a few minutes chat with you.

Have you ever considered why it is called "faith"
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well, let us make clear: non-fictional things can exist, can't they? The FSM is announced as fiction, so it is fictional. The God of the Bible is not announced fictional, so He is non-fictional. Do you copy?
No, that doesn't logically follow. How a thing is represented is not an accurate indicator of its reality. Seers and prophets announce new revelations all the time, but their sincerity is no indication of the veracity of their claims. Only tangible, objective evidence can support their claims.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
You don't appear to understand the word "non-fictional". That would mean that it is real.

Here is a clue, just because something is not "announced" as being fictional does not mean that it is non-fictional.
No, the Multi World interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is not fictional, but it is not real.
The fictional thing is a thing, which is announced by author to be non-existent. For example, if book is called "Fairytale", then the persons in the book are fictional.
If a monster is not announced as fiction, then it is not fictional.
But FSM is fictional, because:
1. It is absurd: spaghety can not fly, and pasta is dead.
Do you agree then, that FSM does not exist? Have I finally disproven the pastafarians?
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
And Einstein announced his cosmological constant "the biggest blunder of my life".

You can make any claim you want, but only testing and empirical evidence will determine what's really true.
Einstein has called the non-zero value of constant as mistake, not the fiction. The fiction is what does not exist. The constant is what the formulas contain. Do you argue with math?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Details are in the file. Enjoy!

By the way, the atheists confess, that they have no idea of God's existence, but they say, that He does not exist. Why do they formulate this by "God is dead", and not by "God is probably dead"?

This a positively laughable bit of writing. If you ever come accross anything approaching science, please try again.
Your generalization about atheism is also off the mark.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
No, the Multi World interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is not fictional, but it is not real.
The fictional thing is a thing, which is announced by author to be non-existent. For example, if book is called "Fairytale", then the persons in the book are fictional.
If a monster is not announced as fiction, then it is not fictional.
But FSM is fictional, because:
1. It is absurd: spaghety can not fly, and pasta is dead.
Do you agree then, that FSM does not exist? Have I finally disproven the pastafarians?

Psychic Snowflakes.

As far as I know, I am the person who first raised the question of the existence of Psychic Snowflakes. I was in an online discussion with a person whose position was that if something was not proven impossible, then its existence must be considered an actual possibility. I tried to make a comparison between God and Santa Claus. He objected vehemently to my using childishness. I then raised the subject of Psychic Snowflakes. He had to admit that, since Psychic Snowflakes had never been proved impossible, they could exist.

So, questfortruth, do you accept the possibility of the actual existence of Psychic Snowflakes? If not why not? Please stick to the arguments you have been making and the logic used for these arguments. No goal shifting.
 
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