Mixed Marriages

[Caladan]

I'm just glad Guitar's Cry is willing to listen to my crazy spiritual ideas/beliefs... or at least he's kind enough to humor me

Yeap. I hope I'll never be as insecure and boastful of my own beliefs to be too blind to see a wonderful person in front of me who might carry a different set of beliefs or cultural baggage.

 

[Gentoo]

But faith prevents you from loving them. For example, would you, an atheist, marry a republican, fundamentalist YEC Christian?

That to me isn't so much about faith though. It's about how you behave if you happen to find yourself in such a relationship. Someone can believe those things and not be forceful about it. Call me an idealist, but I don't believe that faith alone will tear two people apart.

 

[Kerr]

But faith prevents you from loving them. For example, would you, an atheist, marry a republican, fundamentalist YEC Christian?

Nope, faith does not prevent anything. Characteristics do, how you behave and treat others do, and fundamentalists tend to be intolerant jerks. I don´t like those, regardless of faith. Love is to complicated to be reduced to a matter of faith.

I am curious, though, what makes you think I am not a republican?

 

[DallasApple]

So it doesn't bother you that you probably won't be together in whatever afterlife?

It bothers me that we wouldnt be together in this life now because of being worried that we may or may not be together in after this life.

If we dont get to be together in eternity that doesnt mean I dont want to be together with him as much as I can now.

Why woudl I give up someone I love and throw him out and be with someone I dont just because I could spend eternity with them because they believe the same thing?

And Im sorry ..at least in my "religion" there isnt much talk about being married to ANYONE in Heaven.

It more of a dog eat dog kind of thing..Or a indivdual survivor type thing.To each his own stay out of hell kind of thing.There is no ..."you and the love of yoru life go to heaven together and frolick for eternity "

And besides that..not to be mean..If Im in Heaven ..Heaven is Heaven Im not going to be worried about who is in hell or not.

I dont think we go to Heaven and start "stressin out".

Love

Dallas

 

[T-Dawg]

I am curious, though, what makes you think I am not a republican?

1.) Atheists usually base their lack of faith on their reasoning.
2.) Republicans, in addition to almost always lacking a reasoning ability, appeal to their conservative, fundamentalist Christian base, which is inherently anti-atheist.
3.) Therefore, an atheist cannot be a republican.

Someone can believe those things and not be forceful about it.

Fundamentalist Christians are inherently aggressive and forceful about their beliefs. Or maybe that's "evangelicals" I'm thinking of (aren't evangelical and fundamentalist the same thing?).

Why woudl I give up someone I love and throw him out and be with someone I dont just because I could spend eternity with them because they believe the same thing?

You wouldn't. You be with someone you love that believes the same thing, and you do not throw out someone you love who does not believe the same thing, you give him the opportunity to convert.

And Im sorry ..at least in my "religion" there isnt much talk about being married to ANYONE in Heaven.

True, Jesus said that there is no marriage in heaven. Still, can I deal with the guilt that comes with my future wife going to hell because I never tried to convert her?

And besides that..not to be mean..If Im in Heaven ..Heaven is Heaven Im not going to be worried about who is in hell or not.

I dont think we go to Heaven and start "stressin out".

This is why, IMO, that life is a lose-lose situation. I can go to hell and suffer for eternity, or I can go to heaven and be an emotionless robot with no memory of the people I loved (or torment myself for eternity if I do have memory of the people I loved that would then be in hell).

 

[Kerr]

1.) Atheists usually base their lack of faith on their reasoning.
2.) Republicans, in addition to almost always lacking a reasoning ability, appeal to their conservative, fundamentalist Christian base, which is inherently anti-atheist.
3.) Therefore, an atheist cannot be a republican.

Actually I know atheists who I think voted republican. Personally I am not, but that has more to do with the fact that my parents are socialists then anything else.

 

[T-Dawg]

Ever met an Objectivist?

No, I've never heard of them. Is that the name for the tiny minority in the republican party that are in the party because they don't want the government telling them what kind of light bulbs to buy and who to marry, who should really be libertarians but know that they have no hope running for a small party?

 

[Gentoo]

1.) Atheists usually base their lack of faith on their reasoning.
2.) Republicans, in addition to almost always lacking a reasoning ability, appeal to their conservative, fundamentalist Christian base, which is inherently anti-atheist.
3.) Therefore, an atheist cannot be a republican.

Careful of lumping all Republicans into the Religious Right movement. Not all are.

 

[T-Dawg]

Careful of lumping all Republicans into the Religious Right movement. Not all are.

They aren't?

Actually I know atheists who I think voted republican. Personally I am not, but that has more to do with the fact that my parents are socialists then anything else.

But why would an atheist vote for a fundamentalist religious right, which most republican cannidates are?

 

[Kerr]

No, I've never heard of them. Is that the name for the tiny minority in the republican party that are in the party because they don't want the government telling them what kind of light bulbs to buy and who to marry, who should really be libertarians but know that they have no hope running for a small party?

I edited the post, so anyone reading this that is his original post.

Objectivism is a phisosophy based on "reason". About every one of them I have met have been extremely conservative atheists. I also heard someone say he believed Objectivism to be the core of the republican party (cannot say if he was right or not, though, since I personally do not know much about US politics). Not sure if the guy was actually an Objectivist or not. Anyway, I think there of them that vote rep.

 

[Gentoo]

They aren't?

Here, read this: Click!

 

[Kerr]

But why would an atheist vote for a fundamentalist religious right, which most republican cannidates are?

I know nothing about US politics, just saying what I have observed on another site.

 

[Kerr]

Fundamentalist Christians are inherently aggressive and forceful about their beliefs. Or maybe that's "evangelicals" I'm thinking of (aren't evangelical and fundamentalist the same thing?).

Fundamentalists in general are. At last I have yet to meet anyone who was not. It has nothing to do with Christianity.

You wouldn't. You be with someone you love that believes the same thing, and you do not throw out someone you love who does not believe the same thing, you give him the opportunity to convert.

That is not how love works.

 

[T-Dawg]

Here, read this: Click!

Where are all these other factions during the elections, and on the news and in the forums? I only hear about theoconservatives, neoconservatives, and social conservatives.

 

[Nepenthe]

How many of you would be willing to be part of an interracial marriage?

Race is a social invention, but I did marry someone from a different culture.

What about an interfaith marriage?

Again, yes. I'm an atheist, she's an apatheist.

 

[monta]

she's an apatheist.

:thud: :faint:

 

[Gentoo]

Where are all these other factions during the elections, and on the news and in the forums? I only hear about theoconservatives, neoconservatives, and social conservatives.

They're there. The ones you listed are just the more vocal groups..

 

[Nepenthe]

:thud: :faint:

Yes. My wife is a primate...
APATHEIST
...but you knew that. You just wanted an excuse to post a pic of Dr. Zira.

 

[monta]

Yes. My wife is a primate...
APATHEIST
...but you knew that. You just wanted an excuse to post a pic of Dr. Zira.

:no: I wanted to plant the image of you having sexy time with animals in peoples heads

 

[Engyo]

How many of you would be willing to be part of an interracial marriage? What about an interfaith marriage?

I am part of a mixed marriage. We are the same faith, but an interfaith marriage would be fine with em as long s both parties respected the others beliefs.