TrueBlue2
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It seems like you lost interest in your own thread??
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Modern day prophets & revealed scripture
- Thread starter kadzbiz
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It seems like you lost interest in your own thread??
kadzbiz
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I'm spreading myself too thin these days, but you are right. I know not what else to bring up to continue it. Feel free to do so yourself if you wish.
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
No. His own person is what speaks and acts. That speech and those actions are proof of truthfullness or aren't. You get to decide for yourself.
Regards,
Scott
TrueBlue2
Member
TrueBlue2
Member
Do you realize that the book of Genesis, with its 78 pages, covers essentially the first 3,000 years of man's existence? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to have the writings of Adam? Or, how about Enoch? I'll bet he'd have something to tell us wouldn't he? Or Noah? Or even Abraham? We don't even have the writings of the father of the entire Israelite nation! Wow!
The Bible we DO have often makes references to books that are NOT included in the canon. It will go along and then say something to the effect that "you can find more about the Lord's dealing with his people in the book of Jasher, or the book of Solomon, or others. Do you think it would be good if we had the writings of the great king Solomon?
Many of your arguments are based around the idea that if something found in LDS doctrine can't be correlated in the Bible then it can't be true. It's absolutely incredible to me that intelligent, well-educated individuals can limit God ONLY to the books currently compiled in what we call the Bible. I think Adam alone could tell us more about God, and about the gospel of Christ, than the entire canon of the Old Testament. The idea that God couldn't, or didn't, speak to the prophets of the Old Testament before Moses, or the idea that he doesn't speak to prophets today is preposterous!
You asked who Paul was referring to in I Corinthians. The answer is any individual who takes it upon himself to place those kinds of limitations on an ever-knowing God.
The Bible we DO have often makes references to books that are NOT included in the canon. It will go along and then say something to the effect that "you can find more about the Lord's dealing with his people in the book of Jasher, or the book of Solomon, or others. Do you think it would be good if we had the writings of the great king Solomon?
Many of your arguments are based around the idea that if something found in LDS doctrine can't be correlated in the Bible then it can't be true. It's absolutely incredible to me that intelligent, well-educated individuals can limit God ONLY to the books currently compiled in what we call the Bible. I think Adam alone could tell us more about God, and about the gospel of Christ, than the entire canon of the Old Testament. The idea that God couldn't, or didn't, speak to the prophets of the Old Testament before Moses, or the idea that he doesn't speak to prophets today is preposterous!
You asked who Paul was referring to in I Corinthians. The answer is any individual who takes it upon himself to place those kinds of limitations on an ever-knowing God.
A. Ben-Shema
Active Member
Please point out where I said anything about "not being able to write down the Master's words"! I said WHEN ONE IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED there is no more need for books.
PLU
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
Please point out where I said anything about "not being able to write down the Master's words"! I said WHEN ONE IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED there is no more need for books.
PLU
Yet Jesus quoted and honored Moses, Moses quoted and honored Abraham . . . why?
Enlightenment is in the eye of the beholder, you know.
Regards,
Scott
A. Ben-Shema
Active Member
Quite simply because he was talking to 'Pharisees' (religionists / literalists) who would only (possibly) believe things written in what they considered a 'Holy book'! Obviously, if Jesus / Moses were in direct contact with God, they would need no books for themselves.
It depends on what you mean by that. Of course true Enlightenment is through our inner (single) Spiritual eye (third eye). As Jesus said: "If thy eye is single, thy whole body will be full of Light."
PLU
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.
11:35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
(King James Bible, Luke)
I would contend that the reference is to "focus", not the pineal gland.
Why are you quoting the Bible when you claim not to need it?
Regards,
Scott
11:35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
(King James Bible, Luke)
I would contend that the reference is to "focus", not the pineal gland.
Why are you quoting the Bible when you claim not to need it?
Regards,
Scott
A. Ben-Shema
Active Member
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
For the same reason that Jesus did ~ for the benefit of the Pharisees.
PLU
Feeling judgemental, huh?
Scott
A. Ben-Shema
Active Member
You asked me - I'm just telling you the reason - not judging anyone in particular - just telling the Truth.:yes:
PLU
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
Well, you did call me a Pharisee, you know--since the term was applied in relevance to my post.
Regards,
Scott
Regards,
Scott
A. Ben-Shema
Active Member
Well, actually the term (Pharisee) was the answer to your question - it was NOT used as a comment to you in particular - but to anyone who believes books / scriptures above personal experience.:yes:
Try reading through the thread again if you are not clear about it.
PLU
Greatest I am
Well-Known Member
As in foretell the future. Nothing.
As in teach, much.
Begin with wondering if God is perfect as well as His works. Including you and I.
If the answer can be yes, then you are on the right tract.
If you cannot give God the ability to do perfect works then why would you follow an imperfect god?
Regards
DL
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Greetings!
I think it a major mistake to assume that written scriptures are unimportant or "not needed!"
The Baha'i Faith, for example, which is arguably the newest world religion, has fully 200 volumes of scripture (and indeed, we have the originals of every one of these)!
So there's clearly plenty of room for scriptural guidance even in the modern age!
If you're interested, you can see our scriptures at these sites:
Best regards, and I wish you good hunting!
Bruce
I think it a major mistake to assume that written scriptures are unimportant or "not needed!"
The Baha'i Faith, for example, which is arguably the newest world religion, has fully 200 volumes of scripture (and indeed, we have the originals of every one of these)!
So there's clearly plenty of room for scriptural guidance even in the modern age!
If you're interested, you can see our scriptures at these sites:
- www.bahai-library.org (click "Writings" for our scriptures),
- Baha'i Reference Library (this site is multilingual), and
- The Bahá'í Study Center (this site also has videos and talking books).
Best regards, and I wish you good hunting!
Bruce
Sola'lor
LDSUJC
Greetings!
I think it a major mistake to assume that written scriptures are unimportant or "not needed!"
The Baha'i Faith, for example, which is arguably the newest world religion, has fully 200 volumes of scripture (and indeed, we have the originals of every one of these)!
So there's clearly plenty of room for scriptural guidance even in the modern age!
If you're interested, you can see our scriptures at these sites:
And even if "enlightened persons" can manage without this, I put it to you that such individuals are, to say the least, few and far between!
- www.bahai-library.org (click "Writings" for our scriptures),
- Baha'i Reference Library (this site is multilingual), and
- The Bahá'í Study Center (this site also has videos and talking books).
Best regards, and I wish you good hunting!
Bruce
Interesting. It looks like I have more reading to do.
Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. **You can identify them by their fruit**, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Matthew 7:15-16
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**But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives**: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
Galatians 5:22-23 NLT
Matthew 7:15-16
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**But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives**: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
Galatians 5:22-23 NLT