toe mae toh , toh maa toh
, they all same to me if god dint care about monkeys/apes why should i. someday ill eat monkey tandoori with rice.
Well, one difference is that humans are apes, but are not monkeys.
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toe mae toh , toh maa toh
, they all same to me if god dint care about monkeys/apes why should i. someday ill eat monkey tandoori with rice.
That's interesting thanks for sharing. I do realize the mirror test requires a certain level of intelligence to pass, which is different from awareness.Not completely clear:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110705183630.htm
While Rhesus monkeys don't pass the mirror test, they do pass other tests for self-awareness. The point: self-awareness may have many aspects.
Yep, and it was eventually diagnosed as being a type of hopping dinosaur whereas the human-like footprints were almost 20 feet or so apart.Didn't the creationists submit "human" footprints alongside dinosaur footprints as evidence fifty or sixty years ago?
First, there was no "global flood". There is no geological evidence, nor any historic accounts from civilizations that existed when the flood supposedly happened. The story of Noah is just a lame Gilgamesh knock-off.
Nor does it disprove the tooth fairy, so? There is no proving or disproving a fairy tale.Even if previous estimates were inaccurate and have to be adjusted to reflect to new data, that doesn't disprove the theory of evolution.
Besides, how does human-like feet being even older (5.7 million years) than previously thought support the creationist claim that the earth is merely 6k to 10k years old?
Correct. Evolving used to be rapid though, so your point is moot. Only if evolving were slow like today would you have a point. Under the different state past laws, man lived for example about 1000 years. Plants grew fast. You cannot hold the past to today's laws.Uh... I'm pretty sure human feet won't evolve to look different in any noticable way over a mere, what, 4,000 years? Is what when you guys think the flood is?
Meanwhile there are languages, civilizations, trees and structures much older than that that don't show any signs of massive flooding...
Trying to lump the lie in with actual science eh?Evolution theory, atomic theory and other scientific theories aren't as fragile as some seem to think.
How daring of you.Trying to lump the lie in with actual science eh?
Source pleaseThe flood likely occurred somewhere around the KT layer. That is some 70 million imaginary years. The state or nature on earth was likely different than it is today, so that radioactive dating won't work for real time. Gilgamesh was post flood.
Yes, thus the reason the global flood is a fairy tale and evolution is not.Nor does it disprove the tooth fairy, so? There is no proving or disproving a fairy tale.
Contradiction is irrelevant if the claims cannot be supported in the first place.The idea is to show they always contradict themselves and are fund liars and wrong. The years are all wrong anyhow, but within their own little belief system, the prints do not fit.
What makes you think they do not fit? List your reasons. What makes it the case that finding partially bipedal hominin footprints that are 5.7 million years old in the Mediterranean which you consider a problem with the current understanding of human evolution?The flood likely occurred somewhere around the KT layer. That is some 70 million imaginary years. The state or nature on earth was likely different than it is today, so that radioactive dating won't work for real time. Gilgamesh was post flood.
Nor does it disprove the tooth fairy, so? There is no proving or disproving a fairy tale.
The idea is to show they always contradict themselves and are fund liars and wrong. The years are all wrong anyhow, but within their own little belief system, the prints do not fit.
But how could you possibly know that? Source?Under the different state past laws, man lived for example about 1000 years. Plants grew fast. You cannot hold the past to today's laws.
And how could you possibly know this? Source?The state or nature on earth was likely different than it is today, so that radioactive dating won't work for real time.
That is a rather accurate description of the OP....Trying to lump the lie in with actual science eh?
No, I believe in both scientific theories and see no problems with either so far, despite all the unsubstantiated claims to the contrary. Even by those who claim to be 117 years old.Trying to lump the lie in with actual science eh?
toe mae toh , toh maa toh
, they all same to me if god dint care about monkeys/apes why should i. someday ill eat monkey tandoori with rice.
Baseless, unfounded gobbledygook.The flood likely occurred somewhere around the KT layer. That is some 70 million imaginary years. The state or nature on earth was likely different than it is today, so that radioactive dating won't work for real time. Gilgamesh was post flood.
Which is why your religion is still around, I guess.Nor does it disprove the tooth fairy, so? There is no proving or disproving a fairy tale.
You clearly don't understand how science works. Unlike religion, it doesn't just pull nonsense out of it's ***, nor does it fill in gaps with preconceptions and presumptions like religion does. It takes what data is available and draws a logical conclusion from that, and if new data becomes available, adjustments are made to the conclusion.The idea is to show they always contradict themselves and are fund liars and wrong. The years are all wrong anyhow, but within their own little belief system, the prints do not fit.
I am a non-evolution denier like you but this is actually a serious subject (when you take away the religious context). I looked at the OP link and had already heard of this from another source before this. Something doesn't seem to fit current mainstream understanding,Homework for Fellow non-evolution deniers. Please provide good evidence based refutation of the OP. The best response will get the winner tag and other good ones will get "like" tags. Let the labor day weekend anthropology competition begin!
I am a non-evolution denier like you but this is actually a serious subject (when you take away the religious context). I looked at the OP link and had already heard of this from another source before this. Something doesn't seem to fit current mainstream understanding,
Here's the article I had already seen before this thread. This adds to my suspicion that the past is more complicated than we know. I have now seen a list of findings that mainstream science doesn't know what to do with and they then (conveniently) get forgotten.
Fossilized Footprints in Crete
Any thoughts on this?
There is much geological evidence for a flood, you just haven't bothered to research it. Virtually all cultures around the world have flood stories about a huge global flood. You aren't very familiar with creationist thought, you seem to think all creationists are "new earthers". IF humans were existed with animals the great scientific authorities say were separated from them by multiple, multiple, multiple millions of years, wouldn't that cast a little doubt on their reliability re other issues ?First, there was no "global flood". There is no geological evidence, nor any historic accounts from civilizations that existed when the flood supposedly happened. The story of Noah is just a lame Gilgamesh knock-off.
Even if previous estimates were inaccurate and have to be adjusted to reflect to new data, that doesn't disprove the theory of evolution. Besides, how does human-like feet being even older (5.7 million years) than previously thought support the creationist claim that the earth is merely 6k to 10k years old?
Some modern man like footprints have been found. This could easily be pre flood man prints. Man would have evolved since the flood, so changes in heel or feet could be expected. Yet science fantasizes only about some supposed ancestor to man. Besides showing their stories were wrong, it shows they have a very limited pool to draw water from intellectually.
Fossil footprints challenge established theories of human evolution
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170831134221.htm