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Modest Dress Styles and Fashion
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alicabacon
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no doubt lovely scarf are here...they are very nicely complimenting the whole dress...I think their fabric is too light that it would not make hot....
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Mintz
La Illaha IlAllah
I love these.. I wish I had money to buy nice clothes.. when I became muslim last year, I threw out all my clothes and started a new wardrobe.. I still feel I don't have much.. I have a lot of scarves and hijabs now and my fav style is a hijab bun over a full underscarf 
I need more Qamees and Dresses though..
I need more Qamees and Dresses though..
jasem
Member
The main point of wearing Hijab is to prevent attraction, just the factor that has been neglected in these clothes. A muslim woman is proud of herself and her Hijab and does not try making attraction by wearing such clothes. Even non-muslims state that Hijab of women is really interesting for them.:sorry1:
Allah has not ordained women to be drab and ugly. As long as our clothing covers us, it can be pretty. :sorry1:
Mintz
La Illaha IlAllah
I do agree. Although these girls still look a lot more modest than the women in media, they are still models. I don't think women should dress this way in real life though, especially with all the makeup it makes hijab invalid from my point of view.
I disagree. Ideally you're right, but everyone is in their own stage of imaan, and some will struggle. Let's make it our practice to be patient and not judge. I know these are models, but there are hijabis that look/dress this way in real life too.
Sahar,
Would you help me understand something? Covering the head for women in Islam---I thought this was not in the Qu'ran but that it is a cultural thing. Please clarify. Thanks!
Also, I was in Istanbul last year and saw very few women with head scarves---of course, in the mosques, yes. I put one on there also (I am not Muslim and am from the USA and was visiting)---
it was interesting how very few head scarves I saw in Istanbul---even in Cappadocia, in the country--almost none there either. I do have a friend in Istanbul that showed me her wedding pictures and the females were dressed in traditional clothing (very beautiful) as some of your photos. But she does not wear head coverings on a daily basis. Only for going in the mosques.
Thank you!
Would you help me understand something? Covering the head for women in Islam---I thought this was not in the Qu'ran but that it is a cultural thing. Please clarify. Thanks!
Also, I was in Istanbul last year and saw very few women with head scarves---of course, in the mosques, yes. I put one on there also (I am not Muslim and am from the USA and was visiting)---
it was interesting how very few head scarves I saw in Istanbul---even in Cappadocia, in the country--almost none there either. I do have a friend in Istanbul that showed me her wedding pictures and the females were dressed in traditional clothing (very beautiful) as some of your photos. But she does not wear head coverings on a daily basis. Only for going in the mosques.
Thank you!
elmarna
Well-Known Member
I lived in the middle east. While those women are models I saw many common women
dressed in a elegent, beautiful manner.
I MUST SAY- Wearing the hajab & not having to fuss with it is a art in it's own right!
i find it something to smile upon!!!
Thank you for letting me share!
dressed in a elegent, beautiful manner.
I MUST SAY- Wearing the hajab & not having to fuss with it is a art in it's own right!
i find it something to smile upon!!!
Thank you for letting me share!
The vast majority of Muslims will tell you that hijab (headscarves) are required based on these Ayahs in the Qur'an:
and these Hadith:
There are those who say the Qur'an isn't clear and that these rules were put in place were for the Prophet's wives, not all women. However, the majority will say it's required to wear the headscarves.
Having said that, it's not a measurement of faith to only wear the scarf (or to not).
Thanks Ssainhu. Interesting that it clearly states for women to cover their heads in the New Testament but this is not done very often in Christianity now.
I expected in Istanbul to see way more headscarves than I did. With the younger women, I saw none most of the time. And even the older women---very few in terms of all the many many women I saw. They seemed dressed as I was, basically. I probably wore a head scarf more than many because of the time of year (it was cooler and rainy at times.)
Except, as I said, the women wore coverings at the mosque. I did, too, of course, when visiting the Blue Mosque. I got to talk one to one with an imam at the Blue Mosque about many things and it was a total highlight.
Is Turkey different from other countries with mostly Islamic tradition? (I am aware of the secular gov't there.) I mean, though, religiously.
I expected in Istanbul to see way more headscarves than I did. With the younger women, I saw none most of the time. And even the older women---very few in terms of all the many many women I saw. They seemed dressed as I was, basically. I probably wore a head scarf more than many because of the time of year (it was cooler and rainy at times.)
Except, as I said, the women wore coverings at the mosque. I did, too, of course, when visiting the Blue Mosque. I got to talk one to one with an imam at the Blue Mosque about many things and it was a total highlight.
Is Turkey different from other countries with mostly Islamic tradition? (I am aware of the secular gov't there.) I mean, though, religiously.
Hello Clare,
No, covering the head is not a cultural thing, it's a part of the Islamic criteria of modest dress for woman when appearing in front of non Mahram men (those she can marry), this includes covering the entire body except face and hands (some believe that covering the face and hands is recommended or obligatory), the clothes must be loose and must not be sheer, etc.
The Qur'an says:
“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).
The Arabic word for veil mentioned in the translation is "khumur":
You can check this link for further details:
Hijab in The Al-Qur'an and Sunnah
Muslim women for 1400 years and from Morocco to China wear headscarves as a part of their Islamic dress.
So the hijab including the headscarf transcended the different places, times and cultures.
Of course, there are Muslim women who don't follow this teaching and I know there are many of them who still didn't find the courage to take this step and hoping to take it soon.
As for Turkey, Turkey went in an aggressive stage of imposing secularism and fighting against the Islamic expression. Thanks to Ataturk, the Islamic dress was banned and until now Muslim girls and women in Turkey can't wear headscarves in their schools and universities, to the degree that some of them travel abroad to get their education.
What I know that the number of Turkish women who wear headscarves increased dramatically in the last few years under the government of Erdogan.
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In Turkey, though, I didn't see that secularism in government was the reason that the women weren't wearing the scarves. They can wear them if they want, or not if they chose to religiously--no one would stop them. Nor does everyone in Turkey (although most are Muslim) have to be Muslim. I saw other houses of worship.
In the mosques, of course, they wear the scarves there. Can't go into a mosque if you're a woman without wearing one. Our guide (Muslim female) didn't wear a headscarf (except in the mosques) when I did also. I also saw Istanbul (for what it's worth) as incredibly diverse, dynamic, growing, thriving, hospitable, artistic beyond my imagination, and absolutely huge. In the countryside, too, at least in Cappadocia, I didn't see the head scarves very often either---except in mosques. I did see modest dress (refreshing in general)---except for bellydancing which is a unique and lovely dance form. Especially the Turkish type. Still, in that dance, the outfits are very elaborate and they use veils a lot (within the dancing, as I'm sure you know.)
In the mosques, of course, they wear the scarves there. Can't go into a mosque if you're a woman without wearing one. Our guide (Muslim female) didn't wear a headscarf (except in the mosques) when I did also. I also saw Istanbul (for what it's worth) as incredibly diverse, dynamic, growing, thriving, hospitable, artistic beyond my imagination, and absolutely huge. In the countryside, too, at least in Cappadocia, I didn't see the head scarves very often either---except in mosques. I did see modest dress (refreshing in general)---except for bellydancing which is a unique and lovely dance form. Especially the Turkish type. Still, in that dance, the outfits are very elaborate and they use veils a lot (within the dancing, as I'm sure you know.)
Clare, I said that under the current Turkish government that has been in rule for some years, more women started to wear the headscarf (the members of the ruling AK party have a history of being a part of the Islamic political movement), yet, it face restrictions in state institutions and universities.
The Islamic dress was banned starting by Ataturk, this is a fact. The aggressive secularism imposed by Ataturk and the following governments drove many Turkish people away from religion. The Turkish people started to follow the social Western lifestyle. After all, Ataturk's goal was to shape Turkey after the modern secular Western states and he manged to a great extent but amazingly, there is a noticeable Islamic awakening in Turkey now.
The Islamic dress was banned starting by Ataturk, this is a fact. The aggressive secularism imposed by Ataturk and the following governments drove many Turkish people away from religion. The Turkish people started to follow the social Western lifestyle. After all, Ataturk's goal was to shape Turkey after the modern secular Western states and he manged to a great extent but amazingly, there is a noticeable Islamic awakening in Turkey now.
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OK. I just didn't see it and that was refreshing to me (that there is choice and that headscarves are tied into religion but not into the government) but it was also most definitely refreshing not to have a lack of modesty thrown in my face just out and about.
What about belly dancing and the elaborate dress of those? How does that fit into the attire of the East? Just wondering what your thoughts might be on that. Some of the outfits are stunningly beautiful and I find Turkish belly dancing (when done correctly) to be more modest than other versions can be.
What about belly dancing and the elaborate dress of those? How does that fit into the attire of the East? Just wondering what your thoughts might be on that. Some of the outfits are stunningly beautiful and I find Turkish belly dancing (when done correctly) to be more modest than other versions can be.
jasem
Member
Thank you. All of the mentioned models here are wearing lots of makeup and don't seem normal. If a Muslim women is really believing in Islam, they shouldn't be unsatisfied with their looks and wearings.:angel2:
They don't seem "normal"? You can tell that from a photograph? Yet another reason Muslims struggle with progress...judging others from a picture.
When will we learn? LOL!You know it's said Egypt is the origin of belly dance, hahaha!!
I don't know...are you asking about the Islamic stance on belly dance?
If so, then absolutely it's unIslamic for women to shake their body parts with little clothes in front of an audience as we might see in a nightclub, on TV, in a wedding party, etc.
However, the Muslim woman can belly dance as much as she want in front of her husband.
Clare, there are many Muslims who don't care about the teachings of their religion, there are others who fail to follow it in some areas, and there are many who try their best to follow it. People's faith vary much.
jasem
Member
They don't seem "normal"? You can tell that from a photograph? Yet another reason Muslims struggle with progress...judging others from a picture.
Sorry progressed muslima!!. If wearing these clothes and attracting people attention is progress, why bother to wear hijab? Without wearing hijab, people would be more attracted!! I have judged hastily or you by just viewing one comment!! By the way, we have learned so many things, firstly not to be dependent to world exterior, because we won't be here for a long time. So it's better to be looking after true beauty. :angel2: