Huh - imagine that.... the same Muslims who state the Bible has been so corrupted that nothing in it can be believed are now using that
same Bible in an attempt to validate their own prophet and discredit Christianity! :biglaugh:
Islam said:
How are Christians like unto Jesus? You mean they believe in him?
We are 'like unto Jesus' in that just as Jesus died and was Resurrected to be with God, so will we be.
The Bible says that Jesus as the Christ (Savior, Messiah) took the punishment for all of mankind's sins upon Himself. He didn't swap places with His deceiver.... that guy died later. In being resurrected, Jesus conquered death... not just for Himself, but for anyone who accepts and confesses that He did it for us as well.
Yet Islam teaches you otherwise.... the Quranic version of the story is so twisted that it's considered blasphemy against Mohammed to believe the simplicity of the Gospel and Jesus' Message.... He summed it all up pretty well when He said,
Joh 14:5 Thomas said to Him, Lord, we do not know where You go, and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me.
7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also. And from now on you know Him and have seen Him.
It looks to me like the Quran HAS to say the Bible was changed and corrupted.... because if you actually accepted any more of the pieces than those which Mohammed picked and chose, the Quran would HAVE to be considered false. And we can't have that, can we
Islam said:
Yeah, Mohammed believed in Jesus and Moses. No Muslim is a Muslim if they dont accept Jesus Christ.
He is, peace be upon him.
Muslims believe that Jesus IS THE MESSIAH! He is the Christ. Messiah means Christ, that's what Jesus is, im with you on that.
Just to make it clear to you, Muslims believe that Jesus was the Christ and a prophet sent by God. We believe in his virgin birth. However....
You say that to be a Muslim you must 'accept' Jesus as the Christ (aka Messiah aka Savior). Even the demons know that... but they don't accept Him as a savior either...
Mark 1:34 And He healed many who were sick of different diseases, and cast out many demons. And He did not allow the demons to speak, because they knew Him.
Luke 4:41 And also demons came out of many, crying out and saying, You are the Christ, the Son of God! And rebuking them, He did not allow them to speak; for they knew Him to be the Christ.
James 2:19 You believe that there is one God, you do well; even the demons believe and tremble.
Christians believe that accepting Jesus as the Christ means accepting Him as your Savior, not only as a mere prophet. Yet you reject the
MOST IMPORTANT thing He did as the Savior... that thing He did that MAKES Him the Savior.
Sorry guys... looks to me like you're contradicting yourselves on this one.
Anhow... I did some searching and had no trouble finding references to Mohammed and others like him in the Bible:
God warned us of the self-proclaimed false prophets ...
Jeremiah 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran; I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in My wisdom and had caused My people to hear My Words, then they would have turned them from their evil way and from the evil of their doings.
23 Am I a God near, says Jehovah, and not a God afar off?
24 Can anyone hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? says Jehovah. Do I not fill the heavens and earth? says Jehovah.
25 I have heard what the prophets said, who prophesy lies in My name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? But they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart,
27 who plot to cause My people to forget My name by their dreams which they tell, each one to his neighbor, as their fathers have forgotten My name for Baal.
28 The prophet who has a dream, let him tell a dream. And he who has My Word, let him speak My Word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? says Jehovah.
29 Is not My Word like a fire? says Jehovah; and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?
30 So Jehovah says, Behold, I am against the prophets who steal My Words each one from his neighbor.
31 Jehovah says, Behold, I am against the prophets who use their tongues and say, He says.
32 Jehovah says, Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams and tell them, and cause My people to go astray by their lies and by their lightness. Yet I did not send them nor command them; therefore they shall not profit this people at all, says Jehovah.
I had no trouble finding references to and warnings about Mohammed and others like Him in the New Testament as well....
Centuries before Muhammed was born, Jesus warned us:
Matthew 7:13 Go in through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in through it.
14 Because narrow is the gate and constricted is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
15 Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
17 Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many will come in My name, saying, I am Christ, and will deceive many.
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled, for all these things must occur; but the end is not yet.
7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and pestilences and earthquakes in different places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then they will deliver you up to be afflicted and will kill you. And you will be hated of all nations for My name's sake.
10 And then many will be offended, and will betray one another, and will hate one another.
11 And many false prophets will rise and deceive many.
Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, There! Do not believe it.
24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders; so much so that, if it were possible, they would deceive even the elect.
25 Behold, I have told you beforehand.
26 Therefore if they shall say to you, Behold, He is in the desert! Do not go out. Behold, He is in the secret rooms! Do not believe it.
also:
Mark 13:21 And then if anyone shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, lo, there! Do not believe him.
22 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to seduce, if possible, even the elect.
23 But take heed; behold, I have told you all things beforehand.
2Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.
2 And many will follow their pernicious ways, and because of them the way of truth will be evil spoken of.