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Monotheism is not economically, or socially viable

ChieftheCef

ChieftheCef

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Quintessence said:
So... I'm still not quite following. Possibly because you are extending a bit beyond the "how many are the gods" question and instead talking about more diverse and broad issues of both theology and religious practices.
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Eh, those views are endemic in polytheist societies. You will see them to the degree allowed by the land, powers that be, etc
Quintessence said:
"How many are the gods" doesn't necessarily correspond to "how many and often are the festivals worshiping the gods." I mean, you can have only one god in a religion and have as many as or even more festivals than a religion that honors multiple gods. It doesn't really correspond to the quantity of clergy or their economic activities per clergy member either.
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You're really not seeing the big picture, more is more. It means there'll be more positive and because of humans selecting for it less negative. Basic economics stuff
Quintessence said:
And I'm not even gonna get into that weird assumption that more economics means better wellbeing other than to point to our present sixth mass extinction event and raise an eyebrow.
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It does! Bums can afford fresh fruit now if they so choose. Before all you had access to was what was locally available. We have so much more just think about anything you've used in the past day. Where would you be without that? Even an althame. What people are missing is being positive to the self and other, and not negative in the wrong place.
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
ChieftheCef said:
Athens, Babylon, Rome, Egypt and others were all better than ancient israel, because they were open to the other: so, and this is really a long list, less people would be hurt, physically or mentally, for their life choices and so they became more efficient and economically productive benefiting everyone within and somewhat out of it's bounds. The Ancient Israelites, and Persians, and other stubborn people were closed off from others, and so their economics went kaput.
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About 55% of the worlds population today is monotheistic. I think the ship has rather sailed. It makes no sense to say it is not economically or socially viable, as it seems to be working just fine for most of the world.

I'm not sure why you are glorifying the ancient pagan nations. They all had serious problems. Consider how common human sacrifice was back then. Do you think the Aztecs were superior for tearing out still beating hearts?

And while I'm Jewish and not Christian, I'm well aware that one of the things that facilitated the spread of Christianity in its early years was its kindness and compassion. A plague hit, and pagans basically abandoned their infected family members, while Christians would care for the sick. I'm not saying the Church doesn't have evil in its history. I'm just pointing out that your idolization of pagan culture really makes no sense.
 
ChieftheCef

ChieftheCef

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Jayhawker Soule said:
To avoid embarrassing yourself?


What day of justice?
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The one where Jesus and thereby at least some of you exterminate the rest of us. You don't know about that tid bit? I heard enough of it from the bible, quran, and Jewish sources.
Jayhawker Soule said:
[ I'll let that one slide ]


Tossed around by whom?
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Don't act stupid. It defames your character.
Jayhawker Soule said:
You might consider acting less disturbed.
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DUde, there's a jesucide loose in the zeitgeist. It could always happen. I have reasons to be upset.
 
ChieftheCef

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
I honestly do not know what or whom you are talking about, and I'm beginning to suspect that this may be the only thing that we share.
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Osarseph's creation is imbibable.

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.” (Matthew 25:31-32)

“The Day when man will flee from his brother, mother, father, wife, and children. Some faces will be bright, rejoicing, while others will be covered in dust.” (Quran 80:33-42)
 
Dawnofhope

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
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ChieftheCef said:
Athens, Babylon, Rome, Egypt and others were all better than ancient israel, because they were open to the other: so, and this is really a long list, less people would be hurt, physically or mentally, for their life choices and so they became more efficient and economically productive benefiting everyone within and somewhat out of it's bounds. The Ancient Israelites, and Persians, and other stubborn people were closed off from others, and so their economics went kaput.
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It is a bold assertion with little or no evidence in support IMHO.

Countries with Christianity as the largest religion feature amongst the best performing economies today.

www.worldometers.info

GDP per Capita - Worldometer

GDP per capita by country. List by GDP at PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) and by Nominal GDP. Ratio to World's average GDP per capita at PPP
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ChieftheCef

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Dawnofhope said:
It is a bold assertion with little or no evidence in support IMHO.

Countries with Christianity as the largest religion feature amongst the best performing economies today.

www.worldometers.info

GDP per Capita - Worldometer

GDP per capita by country. List by GDP at PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) and by Nominal GDP. Ratio to World's average GDP per capita at PPP
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
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They are not Christian. Few if any of those countries actually live up to the label of monotheist.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
ChieftheCef said:
Athens, Babylon, Rome, Egypt and others were all better than ancient israel, because they were open to the other: so, and this is really a long list, less people would be hurt, physically or mentally, for their life choices and so they became more efficient and economically productive benefiting everyone within and somewhat out of it's bounds. The Ancient Israelites, and Persians, and other stubborn people were closed off from others, and so their economics went kaput.
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What evidence do you have that ancient Israel's economy was "kaput"?
 
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