Moral Law: Revolution against wickedness.

[Wandering Monk]

Good people feed the poor and homeless. Bad people ignore or take advantage of the poor and homeless.

So an atheist could be a good person? Could his good deeds merit a place in the World to Come?

 

[ecco]

I use my heart. I feel the person before me with my body's life field.
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I feel a person's being with my own being. I do not lie. The facts are the facts.
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This is how I understand a person's life-energy-vibration. This energy-vibration is the true-bio-resonance that is on its own the person's total current morality.
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I have experienced this as the only real and valid, scientifically only good way to feel & personally assess a person's bio-mental character.
These scientific methods are the very ways I have learned since childhood, and they clearly enable me to see completely the person before me also including the apreciation of all their beauty inside and out yet not seperate from all else that is included with them.

One thing is certain - I would not want you to be the judge of my morality. Actually, I wouldn't want you to judge anyone's morality.

I have found that people who feel they can judge other's morality are usually of low morals themselves.

 

[ecco]

I agree with you that the world is burning--it's burning with lust, greed, hatred, and delusion. (Buddha's Fire Sermon)

Instead of concentrating on turning outward, one must first turn inward and make the transformation within oneself that you would like to see manifest in the world. Anything less is just polishing a turd.

Polishing a turd seems to be more honest than all the phony introspection we hear mystics taking about.

 

[crossfire]

Polishing a turd seems to be more honest than all the phony introspection we hear mystics taking about.

Good luck with that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

How practicing the Moral Laws in the Five Books of Moses transforms our world into paradise.
United we must stand to stem the tide of imorality in government, technology and the blinding of the world's youth tjrough the multi-media industries.
Greetings. Let us work together to build a better world. Epic change is needed, the world burns. Join me to save it.

Only God can save the world and create paradise. Humans can only either cooperate with Him or fight against Him, whether they realize they're doing it or not.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Only God can save the world and create paradise. Humans can only either cooperate with Him or fight against Him, whether they realize they're doing it or not.

Humbug. Mankind has been dramatically improving life on earth for the last three centuries thanks to the efforts of godless scientists.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Humbug. Mankind has been dramatically improving life on earth for the last three centuries thanks to the efforts of godless scientists.

Seeing as we're in a period of great environmental destruction and a mass extinction is underway, I'd say you're dead wrong. Only human life has materially improved recently, and not for all. The quality of living is actually starting to drop and we're seeing an explosion of mental illness, suicide rates going up, increasing loneliness, people venting their rage through mass shootings which are escalating, a widening gulf between the rich and poor with the middle class being erased, etc.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Seeing as we're in a period of great environmental destruction and a mass extinction is underway, I'd say you're dead wrong. Only human life has materially improved recently, and not for all. The quality of living is actually starting to drop and we're seeing an explosion of mental illness, suicide rates going up, increasing loneliness, people venting their rage through mass shootings which are escalating, a widening gulf between the rich and poor with the middle class being erased, etc.

Your perspective is too narrow chronologically.

As we can see, in the majority of countries the trend is positive: In 49 of the 69 countries with data from two or more surveys, the most recent observation is higher than the earliest. In some cases, the improvement has been very large; in Zimbabwe, for example, the share of people who reported being ‘very happy’ or ‘rather happy’ went from 56.4% in 2004 to 82.1% in 2014.

 

[Wandering Monk]

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Your perspective is too narrow chronologically.

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As we can see, in the majority of countries the trend is positive: In 49 of the 69 countries with data from two or more surveys, the most recent observation is higher than the earliest. In some cases, the improvement has been very large; in Zimbabwe, for example, the share of people who reported being ‘very happy’ or ‘rather happy’ went from 56.4% in 2004 to 82.1% in 2014.

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Your perspective is also narrow since you ignored what I said about the destruction of the environment and biosphere. Who cares if some people are "happy" if the planet is being wrecked? Also, what I said about the gulf between rich and poor applies on a global scale. So what you're saying isn't changing my mind about anything. Life got better for some, but not everyone.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Your perspective is also narrow since you ignored what I said about the destruction of the environment and biosphere. Who cares if some people are "happy" if the planet is being wrecked? Also, what I said about the gulf between rich and poor applies on a global scale. So what you're saying isn't changing my mind about anything. Life got better for some, but not everyone.

Utopians just can't abide progress.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Utopians just can't abide progress.

I'm not a utopian, I'm a realist.

 

[TorahLawDevotee]

Good people feed the poor and homeless. Bad people ignore or take advantage of the poor and homeless.

Empathy & compassion are not statistical values in a math equation.
Do good, respect others, enforce moral duties and strongly integrate the moral laws of our land into every facet of culture, government, media, and business. Love is not a game, and is beyond measure. Behaviors & actions are measuarable by when and what you do and how often. Lets talk actions... Lets directly talk solutions. No conversational meanderings, and no useless financial nor entrapeneurial evasions of the problems in our lives. Every town in this country has an operating beaurocracy and workforce with vehicles, offices, monthly salaries more than enough to feed a wealthy family of 5 persons for each employee and elected official. There are no limitations on government in the area of equipment, employees, discretionary contract fulfillments other than executive imagined contraints on the pretend need to formulate comitees or legislative circus gatherings for budgetary legaleeze that over-defines the simple behaviors of required of human employees of the governments for getting off their butts and doing an effective real humane job to fix the problems in their territories. Empathy is not a legislative process before & after recess. Kintergarden and first grade classes produce better results than U.S. local governments since the 1950's. Actions are easy, philosophy speaches on economics and special comitee luncheons waste time & are souring in the stomachs of the poor & homeless. No more talk of policy or feigned economic poverty of government.

 

[ecco]

Seeing as we're in a period of great environmental destruction and a mass extinction is underway,

Uh huh. The darling of the Evangelical Right, Donald Trump, appointed Andrew Wheeler as head of the Environmental Protection Agency. Here are his qualifications...

He previously worked in the law firm Faegre Baker Daniels, representing coal magnate Robert E. Murray and lobbying against the Obama Administration's environmental regulations.

Wheeler served as chief counsel to the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works and to the chairman U.S. Senator James Inhofe, prominent for his rejection of climate change.[3] Wheeler is a critic of limits on greenhouse gas emissions and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.[4]



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Prior to Wheeler, Southern Baptist Scott Pruitt was head of the EPA.

Both Pruitt and Wheeler are best buds of their mentor James Inhofe who is an evangelical, fundamentalist Christian,


Since you are so concerned about this "period of great environmental destruction and a mass extinction", I guess you have written Inhofe, Pruitt, and Wheeler and expressed your concerns.




Nah. I know better.

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[Saint Frankenstein]

Uh huh. The darling of the Evangelical Right, Donald Trump, appointed Andrew Wheeler as head of the Environmental Protection Agency. Here are his qualifications...

He previously worked in the law firm Faegre Baker Daniels, representing coal magnate Robert E. Murray and lobbying against the Obama Administration's environmental regulations.

Wheeler served as chief counsel to the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works and to the chairman U.S. Senator James Inhofe, prominent for his rejection of climate change.[3] Wheeler is a critic of limits on greenhouse gas emissions and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.[4]



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Prior to Wheeler, Southern Baptist Scott Pruitt was head of the EPA.

Both Pruitt and Wheeler are best buds of their mentor James Inhofe who is an evangelical, fundamentalist Christian,


Since you are so concerned about this "period of great environmental destruction and a mass extinction", I guess you have written Inhofe, Pruitt, and Wheeler and expressed your concerns.




Nah. I know better.

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Yeah, because they're really going to listen. I vote. I'm sure you're blowing up their online and real-world mailboxes, too, right? Nah, I know better, so stuff it.

Oh, and I have no truck with Southern Baptists and Evangelicals, so I have no idea what vague point you were trying to get across.

 

[ecco]

I'm not a utopian, I'm a realist.

No, you aren't. If you were, you would be criticizing the Religious Right for denying Climate Change.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

No, you aren't. If you were, you would be criticizing the Religious Right for denying Climate Change.

I do. No idea why you think I don't or why you think that makes me not a realist. I'm a realist about our situation on this earth and our capabilities to address it.

 

[ecco]

Yeah, because they're really going to listen. I vote.

I may be wrong, but I'd bet you vote Republican. Ya know, Trump, Wheeler, Pruitt, Inhofe and all the other Right Wing Climate Change Deniers.

Oh, and I have no truck with Southern Baptists and Evangelicals, so I have no idea what vague point you were trying to get across.

Too extreme of an example? OK See above and state your position so I don't have to guess.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I may be wrong, but I'd bet you vote Republican. Ya know, Trump, Wheeler, Pruitt, Inhofe and all the other Right Wing Climate Change Deniers.


Too extreme of an example? OK See above and state your position so I don't have to guess.

You are wrong and you obviously don't know a damn thing about me. I have never voted for a Republican in my life aside from some small local races. Keep your assumptions to yourself.

 

[Rival]

I may be wrong, but I'd bet you vote Republican. Ya know, Trump, Wheeler, Pruitt, Inhofe and all the other Right Wing Climate Change Deniers.

This is... quite funny.

Frank is nothing like this. It appears you've taken his religious label and added a billion of your own assumptions. I guess you think I'm a Jew?