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More Fun with the Goomers at TSA

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
TSA inspector leaves note with marijuana after finding weed in rapper's bag

By BILL SANDERSON

They just never learn.

Only two months after a dopey TSA agent got canned for leaving a note in a traveler’s luggage about her sex toy, another agent pulled a stunningly similar stunt by leaving a note in a rap star’s bag cracking wise after allegedly spotting a half-ounce of pot.


Read more: TSA inspector leaves pot stash in rapper Freddie Gibbs’ checked luggage - NYPOST.com

Link to story mentioned
TSA to fire screener who wrote 'get your freak on girl' note after sex toy find - NYPOST.com
 

averageJOE

zombie
When TSA was first being established a dead line was given with a specific date for the entire organization across the country to be up and running. It was something like a year and a half. Because of this dead line thousands of positions needed to be filled and mass hiring comensed. During this mass hiring thousands and thousands of people with absolutly no qualifications were being given these jobs. People with no background in something as simple as working with the public were being hired. Numbers had to be met.

Now the problem is is that those people are still working there today. And worse, they are in "leadership" positions (within their workforce that is) because they have been there from the begining. These underqualified burnouts are who the american public keep talking about in the media. These are the people who get caught doing stupid things.

Trying to get hired by TSA today is much more difficult. Now they are in position to pick and choose. Today they are hiring people with relevent experience; either in security, ex or current law enforcemnt, ex or current military, people who were in a prior management position, and almost everyone is required to have a college degree now.

These new hires are getting new training that focuses on customer service as a priority and preserving and respecting peoples rights. Basically, TSA is trying really hard to change their image that a lot of americans have of them. Except that these burnouts keep ruining it. Unless these burnouts all either quit or get fired TSA will always have this image as a giant sex organization who wants to steal your stuff.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Air Marshals Gone Wild! Tales Of Sexism, Suicide and Bigotry - ABC News

From the article......
Managers at the Federal Air Marshal Service regularly made fun of blacks, Latinos and gays, took taxpayer-paid trips to visit families and vacation spots, and acted like a "bunch of school kid punks," current and former air marshals tell ABC News.
One supervisor was even photographed in 2006 asleep on a flight, carrying a loaded pistol, the air marshals said.
In interviews to be broadcast tonight on "World News with Diane Sawyer" and "Nightline," the air marshals describe a culture of incompetence, bigotry and sexism on the part of senior managers at some offices that has endured for the last decade and raises questions about the professionalism and performance of the force entrusted with preventing acts of in-flight terrorism.
 

averageJOE

zombie
An interesting piece by Kip Hawley.....
Why Airport Security Is Broken—And How to Fix It - WSJ.com
The guy makes sense, & is in a position to know what he's talking about.
I wonder why things continue to proceed so badly at TSA?
1. No more banned items.
I agree with this, but to a point like the author of the article suggests. Certain items can just never be allowed on a plane. Other items are just not a threat anymore. Like a 1 inch key chain knife. I think it would be funny to see someone try and hijack a plane with one of those.

2. Allow all liquids.
One rule I always had mixed feelings about. I totally understand where and why the 3-1-1 rule is there I just don't feel it's effective. Especially since there are ways to check to see if the liquid is an explosive or not.

3. Give TSA officers more flexibility and rewards for initiative, and hold them accountable.
I agree with 100%. I don't think most people even realize how well trained a TSA officer really is.

4. Eliminate baggage fees.
Yes, but TSA has no control over that.

5. Randomize security.
Again, I agree with 100%. When a person says "They let me at this airport why can't I do it here?" I think is a good thing. Unpredictability keeps bad guys confused.

However, I feel one of the best things they can do is conduct a complete housecleaning and get rid of all the officers that have no business working there (as I mentioned in post 43.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Regarding #3, they aren't really officers or well trained at all.
(They've a tendency to exceed their authority when they're not asleep at the wheel.)
Perhaps a percentage of the should receive such training & ride herd on the rest.
The tedium of the job should be addressed too, since attention will lapse.
 

averageJOE

zombie
The difference is consent. If this woman first asked to put her hands on this officer and the officer said yes, then there is no case.

Before pat downs TSO's go through advisements telling you what they are going to be doing. And when passangers pass the sign in front of the screening lanes that says "All persons and property are subject to additional screening" (or something like that) they are consenting to these searches.

Now if a TSO begins a pat down without saying these advisements then passengers have a case. Also, if a TSO gives you these advisements but performs the pat down without gloves, then you have a bigger case.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The difference is consent. If this woman first asked to put her hands on this officer and the officer said yes, then there is no case.
Before pat downs TSO's go through advisements telling you what they are going to be doing. And when passangers pass the sign in front of the screening lanes that says "All persons and property are subject to additional screening" (or something like that) they are consenting to these searches.
Now if a TSO begins a pat down without saying these advisements then passengers have a case. Also, if a TSO gives you these advisements but performs the pat down without gloves, then you have a bigger case.
There is still an issue with what the TSA employee says will be done, & what is actually done. Moreover, there is coercion by the TSA,
ie, you submit to the 'touching' or you cannot travel & you suffer non-recoverable costs. This is less than entirely voluntary consent.
There is also the issue of whether the TSA employee has much of a complaint. If such 'touching' is ordinary & acceptable for them to
perform on all citizens many thousands of times a day, then it isn't really much of an offense.

Hey! My post count is a palindrome...."22122". Woo hoo!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
» Man Kicked Off Flight Over Anti-TSA Shirt Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

I really liked this part...
Guha also states that the reason given by a Buffalo-Niagara transit police officer for subjecting him to extra interrogation was because “He looks foreign.”
According to the police, it was also suspicious that Guha’s wife did not share his surname.
“And she’s your wife? How long have you been married? And she refused to take your name? “WHY wouldn’t she?” the cops asked Guha.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This is more of a "Fun With The Goomers At The Airlines" news item.
Disabled Calif. Boy Not Allowed To Board Airplane « CBS Las Vegas
On the second airplane, the family was placed in the last row and no passengers were allowed to sit within two rows of them, Vanderhorst said.
He hoped that airlines would change their mentality when dealing with the disabled. “It’s ridiculous and groundless to claim that this kid created a
security risk,” he said. “It was the pilot’s insecurity. I paid for those seats and there was nothing that should have prevented us from taking that flight.”
 
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