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[Dan From Smithville]

I understand that it is the WORST kind of DNA!

That is interesting. I thought it was the riches, most aromatic kind. I was way off.

 

[YoursTrue]

So, now you are admitting that your god is not omniscient. You are admitting that your god does not know everything that has happened, everything that is happening, and everything that will happen.

Hmm.




You are really hedging. Where did you get the "insight" that your god can choose what to know and what to not know? Obviously, that is something that you just made up to desperately try to maintain your position. You have no way of knowing this. Christians believe their god, your god, is omniscient. period. "Omniscient" does not mean "choose to know". It means "know".

He also knew that he was going to horrifically kill almost every man woman child and fetus along with almost all the animals. He knew!

I am saying that the Almighty God is Almighty. He can do whatever He wants. Period. That closes the argument.

 

[YoursTrue]

So true! Darwin was most humble from all I have learned. He could identify with other forms of life and their struggle. He still remains as one of the most influential people of my life. So does Humboldt with is insight in to the environment. Personally I find other non-human apes part of family after reading so many studies of them in their natural habitat.

Researchers have a lot of different opinions. New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa - Big Think

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am saying that the Almighty God is Almighty. He can do whatever He wants. Period. That closes the argument.

So he can lie you are saying. If God can lie then all bets are off. But then why believe him when he promises something contrary to his nature. Have you looked at all of the killings by God or ordered by God in the Old Testament? Clearly he is not a nice guy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Researchers have a lot of different opinions. New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa - Big Think

I doubt if you read that article. It still says that people came out of Africa. Did you see that?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Researchers have a lot of different opinions. New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa - Big Think

They do. It is based on the evidence you keep claiming doesn't exist. You keep posting about this evidence you say doesn't exist, which I find rather amusing. It is an argument that requires more evidence for support. It would require robust evidence for a consensus to form. But arguments over where a species or lineage may have evolved and where it might have evolved does not refute the theory of evolution. You seem to be under the impression or are trying to imply that new arguments, new hypotheses over evidence and this sort of evidence somehow refutes evolution. It is just fine tuning and looking for greater resolution. The theory still stands.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I am saying that the Almighty God is Almighty. He can do whatever He wants. Period. That closes the argument.

I accept that you believe this. But does it really close the argument for you? I doubt it.

 

[YoursTrue]

So weird that a certain creationist windbag never replied to ANY rebuttals of his laughably naive rant... Hmmm....
I was so looking forward to learn what "nebulous DNA" is, who claimed that "human DNA" was around 1 million years ago, etc....

And now researchers are finding that humans may have originated in Europe -- not Africa -- hmmm. New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa - Big Think Gotta wonder as to who's right. About that nebulous DNA.

 

[YoursTrue]

They do. It is based on the evidence you keep claiming doesn't exist. You keep posting about this evidence you say doesn't exist, which I find rather amusing. It is an argument that requires more evidence for support. It would require robust evidence for a consensus to form. But arguments over where a species or lineage may have evolved and where it might have evolved does not refute the theory of evolution. You seem to be under the impression or are trying to imply that new arguments, new hypotheses over evidence and this sort of evidence somehow refutes evolution. It is just fine tuning and looking for greater resolution. The theory still stands.

The opinions keep changing. What was certifiably correct (meaning you had to get the 'right answer' on tests to get it marked correct) is no longer necessarily correct. I have learned a lot from these conversations. (Yikes.) Thanks!

 

[YoursTrue]

I accept that you believe this. But does it really close the argument for you? I doubt it.

Again -- God the Almighty can do what He wants. He can foresee individual outcomes and He is not obliged to see that. Or, foresee that. See? Because He does what He wants to. He decides. Not you and not me. Its a tough one for many people.

 

[Wandering Monk]

I am confused. The Bible doesn't really mention dinosaurs at all, let alone anything about them dying before the formation of Adam. Where do you get all this?

Creationists create their own Bible when it comes to questions like this. They try to tell us they know how Goddidit.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Again -- God the Almighty can do what He wants. He can foresee individual outcomes and He is not obliged to see that. Or, foresee that. See? Because He does what He wants to. He decides. Not you and not me. Its a tough one for many people.

Are you claiming to know the mind of God? It sounds like you are.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Creationists create their own Bible when it comes to questions like this. They try to tell us they know how Goddidit.

I agree. They claim to know the mind of God and the one true interpretation of the Bible. If you do not believe exactly as they do, then even Christians are not 'real' Christian.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The opinions keep changing. What was certifiably correct (meaning you had to get the 'right answer' on tests to get it marked correct) is no longer necessarily correct. I have learned a lot from these conversations. (Yikes.) Thanks!

I have learned a lot from your posts.

And what you are claiming here, without the courage to actually come out and say it, is that because new data comes in that leads to new ideas on the details of science, sound theory can suddenly be ignored. It is a pretty lame conclusion that is not based on any evidence. You would never make it passed the vetting for a jury with this sort of reasoning.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Again -- God the Almighty can do what He wants. He can foresee individual outcomes and He is not obliged to see that. Or, foresee that. See? Because He does what He wants to. He decides. Not you and not me. Its a tough one for many people.

The implication here, and it is not a tough one to see, is that you know what God chooses and does not choose to see.

 

[Bear Wild]

Researchers have a lot of different opinions. New fossils suggest humans evolved in Europe, not Africa - Big Think

You have just presented the evidence of the power of evolution. This is why creationists will always lose the argument. They question what is correct, challenge each other, and in the end come out knowing more than before. They are not stuck to a rigid belief system that cannot change even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Enjoy the symbolism that your stories give you. Find comfort in your religion. But why remain ignorant of our world?

It has been asked before but I want you to really consider this question and give your best answer.

If you believe that your god made this world, what would teach us the most about the world - gods creation or a book actually written down by the hands of humans less than 3000 years ago?

It just seems to me this is just saying that humans no more than god.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The implication here, and it is not a tough one to see, is that you know what God chooses and does not choose to see.

I always like how creationists try to tell their God how he had to make the world.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You have just presented the evidence of the power of evolution. This is why creationists will always lose the argument. They question what is correct, challenge each other, and in the end come out knowing more than before. They are not stuck to a rigid belief system that cannot change even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Enjoy the symbolism that your stories give you. Find comfort in your religion. But why remain ignorant of our world?

It has been asked before but I want you to really consider this question and give your best answer.

If you believe that your god made this world, what would teach us the most about the world - gods creation or a book actually written down by the hands of humans less than 3000 years ago?

It just seems to me this is just saying that humans no more than god.

It is a strange dichotomy to hold a belief that God created everything, yet we cannot learn anything from that creation. That knowledge gained from and about this divine creation is somehow tainted, since it was not written down 2,000 years ago.

It is sadly amusing that we live lives now, using knowledge and technologies that are no where to be found in the Bible. The literalists live this way too. The literalist view is a a strange and intellectually suicidal approach to life.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I always like how creationists try to tell their God how he had to make the world.

Creationists have a lot of rules for God to follow.

 

[YoursTrue]

You have just presented the evidence of the power of evolution. This is why creationists will always lose the argument. They question what is correct, challenge each other, and in the end come out knowing more than before. They are not stuck to a rigid belief system that cannot change even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Enjoy the symbolism that your stories give you. Find comfort in your religion. But why remain ignorant of our world?

It has been asked before but I want you to really consider this question and give your best answer.

If you believe that your god made this world, what would teach us the most about the world - gods creation or a book actually written down by the hands of humans less than 3000 years ago?

It just seems to me this is just saying that humans no more than god.

Within the past century or so only has mankind picked up fairly quickly on electricity and motor vehicles. (And polluting the earth while doing so.)
So obviously men can quickly do fantastic things. The written record of all mankind is only several thousand years old. Yet it is claimed that neanderthals and other humans 40,000 or more so years ago did not need to read and write. Again...a supposition. Similar to the idea that neanderthals interbred with homo sapiens and no one knows how the so-called neanderthals became extinct. It's maybe this is or maybe that. But no one knows. But we do know about ancient writings. And we know that bones have been excavated.