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Moses

Sorry hacker is keeping me from sharing.

Computer issue. Not your problem right, but is a problem of why can not answer you.

Gensis is the birth of all things and Exodus is the evolution of our mankind. It is not about a racist thing, but of a species of man and how we evolved, and it from the stars.


sorry will not come back in here because of the threat that has all ready hit the computer.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Gensis is the birth of all things and Exodus is the evolution of our mankind.

False

unsupported by all of science

and it from the stars

only if you follow panspermia

if your talking about ancient aliens playing with DNA, that is unsupported and worse then mythology.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
False............

.....if your talking about ancient aliens playing with DNA, that is unsupported and worse then mythology.

Honestly outhouse, you're no fun at all....... now you're knocking Eric-von-D and his spaceships!

Back to thread...... you are just the one to help....... The passover of the angel of Death: is this celebrated by the Jews at time of full moon? Or just after full moon? Any ideas? Please?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
If you knew him, you would know he is a criminal

15'th of Nissan, full moon

1st sentence..... OK..... so we can't enjoy spacemen and chariots of fire in this thread. You spoil everything.

2nd sentence...... you are beautiful. Well, your knowledge is....! Right, I reckon that quite a bit of Genesis/Exodus might be true, and I want to guide you to the emigration of the Israelites out of Egypt through the Reed Sea. No Jewish Members were able to give me an answer about the moon phase (in previous threads) but I felt that it must have been a full moon because of the Christian 'placing'of Easter.

Let me bullet point:-
1. The Israelites (as slaves) farmed the papyrus marshes.
2. No self respecting Egyptian would be seen dead in the infested marshes.
3. The Israelites knew that wades and channels. The Egyptians did not.
4. The Israelites picked their escape time at (or just after - better!) full moon.
5. They probably picked a coinciding South Easterly blow.
6. Low tide would have been a lowest astronomical low-water. The Israelites went through to the other side.
7. Flood tide could have been a Full tidal bore, tearing up the Reed Sea, engulfing all in a (say) 3 meter wave, followed on by a highest astronomical high water. Nasty.
Lots of drhe owned Egyptians everywhere.

I don't know how high a reed sea tidal bore might have been, but the great American rivers must may well have extreme tidal bores, and I would want to focus on the largest because of the shape of the reed sea's entrance. I believe in all this. I also believe in the story of Moses striking the mountain (?) with his rod and water gushing out, because there is a story about a British sergeant (1st world war) who struck the side of the same mountain with his spade whilst attempting to trench-dig and broke through a calcerious (?) layer, which gushed water for many hours. Have you heard of any of this before?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I reckon that quite a bit of Genesis/Exodus might be true,

how so???

it wasnt even finished until roughly the 5th/5th century.

There isnt a historian out there that gives this mythology any credibility and it surely doesnt have any historicity as written. It is theology not history, big difference

israelite's formed from displaced Canaanites, there was never a exodus from egypt as written.


1st sentence..... OK..... so we can't enjoy spacemen and chariots of fire in this thread. You spoil everything.

why because you dont want to know the truth? makes me sick at how he lies to people. that whole crowd are nothing but nut jobs.

I have been to all th eplaces in peru he talks about, and if you ever went there yourself, you would see what a dirtbag that criminal really is. its all ball faced lies

some nazca lines are visible from a small ladder, this particulaly extremely dry area is so dry, these ancient poor people were makibng signs in the dry desert so that the gods would see their animals and send water [rain] this was nothing more then begging gods for water.

Machu picchu just has large stones, and guess what, when your there, they show you how people cut them. and guess what, were talking about people that had been practicing moving and cutting blocks for thousands of years. like most all ancient cultures, they were good at dealing with heavy stone and rocks
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
how so???

it wasnt even finished until roughly the 5th/5th century.

There isnt a historian out there that gives this mythology any credibility and it surely doesnt have any historicity as written. It is theology not history, big difference

israelite's formed from displaced Canaanites, there was never a exodus from egypt as written.




why because you dont want to know the truth? makes me sick at how he lies to people. that whole crowd are nothing but nut jobs.

I have been to all th eplaces in peru he talks about, and if you ever went there yourself, you would see what a dirtbag that criminal really is. its all ball faced lies

some nazca lines are visible from a small ladder, this particulaly extremely dry area is so dry, these ancient poor people were makibng signs in the dry desert so that the gods would see their animals and send water [rain] this was nothing more then begging gods for water.

Machu picchu just has large stones, and guess what, when your there, they show you how people cut them. and guess what, were talking about people that had been practicing moving and cutting blocks for thousands of years. like most all ancient cultures, they were good at dealing with heavy stone and rocks



Genesis....... written in 5th century. It's ok to write down oral (or any) history after the fact. I reckon that part of Genesis is metaphor, and part history.
I also believe in reports such as the Exodus. I gave you some basic ideas about that for you to consider.

Eric von D? Me not recognise the truth? I read his first book during the 60's. Never read another (yet). Don't feel strongly about it all. But after our exploits of the last 40 years I keep an open mind. I'm sorry that I touched a wrong chord with you there.... I was just being facetious, and I'm sorry. I tell you straight, I value your knowledge very much.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
But after our exploits of the last 40 years I keep an open mind. I'm sorry that I touched a wrong chord with you there.... I was just being facetious, and I'm sorry. I tell you straight, I value your knowledge very much.

its cool bud, sorry im so passionate about history.

Its just I used to believe all that garbage until I actually studied it all, went out in the field and basically caught those ancient alien folk, in blatant lies.

There is no tie what so ever.


Genesis....... written in 5th century.

Nope, "finished" were talkin about compilations of collections from different areas that contradict each other bud. this started roughly 960 BC ish, and the book literally evolved over 500 years, and finally redacted to monotheism taking its finished form.


I reckon that part of Genesis is metaphor, and part history.

there ya go

thats true


I also believe in reports such as the Exodus.

Just so you know

this is factual

Israelites did form factually from displaced Canaanites over a few hundred years. These early Israelites used Canaanite mythology and their deities.

We factually trace them back through archeology that is not disputed, and through mythology that predates the culture completely.

there is not one shred of evidence for moses or the exodus, that part was written as theology, and much later then early genesis.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
.................................................
there is not one shred of evidence for moses or the exodus, that part was written as theology, and much later then early genesis.

One shred...............?? Not one shred? Just a second.... you are writing that there was no enslavement of the Israelites in Egypt, and no escape or emigration out of that land? Well, there's my homework for a little while, because I just cannot believe that no part of Exodus is true.

The crossing of the Reed Sea seems so 'possible' to me, just as written, that I need to go away and learn about all this.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
.... you are writing that there was no enslavement of the Israelites in Egypt

Thats actually factual, The culture of the earliest Israelite settlements is Canaanite

Isrealites didnt form until "after" 1200 BC from displaced Canaanites.

The Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The consensus among biblical scholars today is that there was never any exodus of the proportions described in the Bible,

this means historians almost all agree that there was no such a historical event.




A century of research by archaeologists and Egyptologists has found no evidence which can be directly related to the Exodus captivity and the escape and travels through the wilderness,[22] and most archaeologists have abandoned the archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus as "a fruitless pursuit".



The crossing of the Reed Sea seems so 'possible' to me

people were just reaching to try and find a way to turn the legend into reality, "reed sea" has had no success, as Isrealites factaully formed from displaces Cannanites.



I need to go away and learn about all this

read the whole exodus link I provided, ity will let you know different sides of the legend.
 

Ascendedone

New Member
Interesting discussion about Moses. Science has proven his, Aarons and Miriams linage through chromosomes.
 
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