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Most correct religion for mankind

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Well I answered the second part of your question. That's what I've been answering this whole time. I'm telling you what I base it on. As for the first question, no not all Karaites hold his view, some Karaites don't even support Israel. They do however, take the Torah very literally, so I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the only one with that view.
 

LoTrobador

Active Member
Well I answered the second part of your question. That's what I've been answering this whole time. I'm telling you what I base it on. As for the first question, no not all Karaites hold his view, some Karaites don't even support Israel. They do however, take the Torah very literally, so I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the only one with that view.

So your negative view of Karaites, as expressed in words

Karaites, oh boy. Even worse.

is based on your disagreement with their beliefs?

As for the first question, no not all Karaites hold his view, some Karaites don't even support Israel. They do however, take the Torah very literally, so I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the only one with that view.

Thank you for your response.
 

FluentYank3825

Ironic Idealist
One thing I have observed with many religions is their individual claim to soteriological exclusivity, especially in Western religions like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam-only through our religion can you be saved from your fallen state and return to God. You can't belong to both at the same time

My point in which religion I think is correct is this: it's whichever one you feel makes the most sense and best explains what you believe about life and happiness.

As for me, I wish to respect all religions by not professing membership in any of them.
 

Dan4reason

Facts not Faith
It was previously suggested that Judaism is the most correct religion for mankind. Yosef, a secular Jew, disagrees.

Is Judaism the most correct religion for mankind?? If not, is there another in particular that fits the bill?

I think we all can agree that a religion can be right or wrong for an individual, but collectively or universally, is there one that stands out as a brighter beacon to guide all of humanity?

~ sunsplash
A spiritual seeker on a quest with questions

Does Judeism have evidence that other religions don't? What makes Judaism any more right than all the other superstitions created at the time?
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
There is no specific religion that is best for mankind... Rather there is a religion or belief that suits an individual best. For me, I believe it to be Sikhism, although I am not quite 100% positive or certain. But it does not matter if you embrace X, Y, or Z. The important thing is that people and even mankind in general find some sort of meaning or importance in their life/lives.
 
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Walkntune

Well-Known Member
Just walk in selfless love. To walk in a religion based on laws is to walk in bondage but to walk in love is to walk above all laws.God is love.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
It was previously suggested that Judaism is the most correct religion for mankind. Yosef, a secular Jew, disagrees.

Is Judaism the most correct religion for mankind?? If not, is there another in particular that fits the bill?

I think we all can agree that a religion can be right or wrong for an individual, but collectively or universally, is there one that stands out as a brighter beacon to guide all of humanity?

~ sunsplash
A spiritual seeker on a quest with questions

If I had to suggest a single religion that is best for all of mankind I'd say either Satanism or Transhumanism. Both of them have humanity's ideals and desires at heart without being clouded by superstitious concepts of morality.

Personally I don't think that Judaism cuts it by a long way.
 

arimoff

Active Member
I don't think there's a single religion for everybody either, and as I pointed out, one of my problems with Judaism is that, while it may not claim to be the correct religion for everyone, it does claim to be the correct religion for Jews. Orthodox Rabbis have always been very clear about what they believe will happen to an apikoros (an apostate). The Gemara says he will be boiled in boiling excrement.

Hmm strange. may I ask you for the source?
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Of course arimoff

Apikoros (definition)- Apikoros

Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell (BT Erubin 21b)

I have another one to dig up somewhere
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
"He who casts off the yoke [of the Law], and he who severs the Abrahamic covenant; he who interprets the Torah against the halakic tradition, and he who pronounces in full the Ineffable Name—all these have no share in the world to come,") or possibly have no afterlife at all.- Sanhedrin 17a
 

LoTrobador

Active Member
Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell (BT Erubin 21b)

The Soncino Babylonian Talmud translates this passage as:

This teaches that he who scoffs at the words of the Sages will be condemned to boiling excrements.

Also, this website provides the following translation:

This teaches that everyone who mocks (mal'ig) the words of the sages will be punished in burning excrement.

(Emphasis mine.)
 

DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
The Soncino Babylonian Talmud translates this passage as:

This teaches that he who scoffs at the words of the Sages will be condemned to boiling excrements.

Also, this website provides the following translation:

This teaches that everyone who mocks (mal'ig) the words of the sages will be punished in burning excrement.

(Emphasis mine.)

Doesn't make much difference. It still shows God being an insecure sadistic pyscho who inflicts grossly disproportionate punishments.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It was previously suggested that Judaism is the most correct religion for mankind. Yosef, a secular Jew, disagrees.

Is Judaism the most correct religion for mankind?? If not, is there another in particular that fits the bill?

I think we all can agree that a religion can be right or wrong for an individual, but collectively or universally, is there one that stands out as a brighter beacon to guide all of humanity?

I've long thought that Buddhism looked like the best religion.
I don't know much of the varieties, but I'd prefer the earlier godless one.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Orthodox Rabbis have always been very clear about what they believe will happen to an apikoros (an apostate). The Gemara says he will be boiled in boiling excrement.
So, "the Gemara says" ....

Of course, the Gemara is a discussion reflecting oft times widely divergent views by people seeking to deal in and with a world virulently hostile to Jews. For someone completely and willfully ignorant of Talmud to take a quote out of context as evidence of what "Orthodox Rabbis have always been very clear about" is an approach more typically found on neo-Nazi sites. I seriously doubt that a more noble purpose is being served here ...
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
I think that people following most of the main religions think that their religion is the one true religion...

IMO, as humans meant to live together, and as the main religions believe in one God who created the universe, it's the religion revealed by this God that should be followed...

And if he has revealed more than one religion ...Which one to follow?

It's like when a master issue more than one order to his servant...
Which order will they follow...

It must be the last one...
as the servants are obeying him at the present...
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Interesting thread. in all my time on RF, I haven't seen a single Jewish member claiming that Juaism is the correct religion for mankind. given that Jews do not attempt to convert people to their religion might be the reason, but that's just me...
 
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