Most correct religion for mankind

[arimoff]

Its usually the people who believe in one God who do all the fighting over religion.

Well can we really call them believers then? they are just hijackers of believes witch they think call them to fight or make wars. Like few examples, why were Christians killing Jews in Europe when thanks to Jews they believe in what they believe? same goes for Muslims why spread the hate towards Jews when its thanks to them that Muslims are now monotheists?

Hijackers.

 

[Orias]

Well can we really call them believers then? they are just hijackers of believes witch they think call them to fight or make wars. Like few examples, why were Christians killing Jews in Europe when thanks to Jews they believe in what they believe? same goes for Muslims why spread the hate towards Jews when its thanks to them that Muslims are now monotheists?

Hijackers.

This is not a debate thread.

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

same goes for Muslims why spread the hate towards Jews when its thanks to them that Muslims are now monotheists?

Who said so?? Of course Im personally very grateful.

(Btw, Ive never met a Jew in my life)

 

[TrodtoZion]

This is why there so much war and tings, religons bickering this and other religons bickering back. As Prophet Bob Nesta Marley say "There are many Mansions in InI Fathers House"

Jah Rastafari I

 

[Midnight Pete]

There is no "most correct" religion for mankind because as religions go we can't agree on anything. How can there be any universal consensus on "most correct" I do not know.

Make love your religion.

 

[Orias]

There is no "most correct" religion for mankind because as religions go we can't agree on anything. How can there be any universal consensus on "most correct" I do not know.

Make love your religion.

What about hate, empathy, guilt, sympathy?

That is the thing, religion cannot agree on anything, whereas the Satanic preference relies on common sense for what we are.

But you know...so many religions have been trying to hide the sanctum of the mind, simply because the acknowledgement and understanding of its existence denies the imitators.

So many people may ask, what is the position of a Satanist?

If one knew of its origins, I would simply reply look within the self you have created.

But for those who do not know, Satanism is not about hating just to hate, it is despising those who deserve it, and loving those who deserve it as well. It's not about donating money to a non-profit organization, its about donating and contributing to the self, whereas your development could be conducive to the people around you later on.

Satanists are truly individuals who only imitate themselves, and not what they want to be, and not what they don't want to be.

Once one has fulfilled the self, their competence could be used to provide a more structurly and stable enviroment for those within and around their existence.

To sum it up, yes it is about the carnal self and what man truly is. Why so many have tried to cover it up with baby sacrificing, drugs and alchohol, being overly selfish and misanthropic beats me, for we all have one thing in common, we are human. And as humans we have but one attainable desire, to live with ease and joy. Banding together as one to unite under one false principal is the very undoing of man and man's prudence. Banding together to unite under man as a whole is what will drive man beyond himself.

Yes, being Satanic is the acknowledgement of the harsh enviroment in which we live, but with this acknowledgement comes the ease of being, for happiness also exists, for one thing could not exist without its opposite (i.e. light, darkness, up, down, hot, cold).

To be best conducive to society, one must attain their own social and acceptable status, which consists of self knowledge, self awareness, self preservation, and self proclamation. It is the realization that man is selfish, no matter the form, that any act done is done to gain gratification, be it in a selfless act, it still makes one feel better and gratifies them on the inside.

Get over all of this folly and lovey dovey bs. Drop the sympathy, it just allows worthless bums to take advantage of you, acknowledge empathy, for understanding is the key to a greater and more successful being.

"Hell must be a pretty swell spot, because the guys that invented religion have sure been trying hard to keep everybody else out."- Al Capone

If you allow the fear of ignorance to overcome you, then you are deserving of the status "the same". This is not saying that one does not fear death, as I admit I too, fear death. But I don't allow some nonesense to tell me who and what I am.



You could deny all of this, but one message for you, the world does not consist of fluffy unicorns and pink pillows, rocks always sum up the harshness of our enviroment, for it is always below us.

 

[javajo]

He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Mathew 28:6

 

[Orias]

He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Mathew 28:6

"Don't let the legitimacy of names fool you, for one named Sophia is not always wise." Matthew Schellinger 6:6:6 (Me)

Whats your point?

 

[MaybeSpartacus]

Like few examples, why were Christians killing Jews in Europe when thanks to Jews they believe in what they believe?

Historically speaking the reason was because Jesus was killed due to the Jews in Palestine. The Romans probably didn't care one way or the other but since he was (apparently) causing a lot of inflammation in the populace they just decided to off him to keep the Jewish leaders happy so they wouldn't have a complete revolt on their hands. Ergo Jews killed Jesus. It's not hard to extrapolate further why the mentality of blaming everything on the local Jews has survived in Christian dominated regions to the modern day. It might have once been the Church which taught such ideas but convenient scapegoats persist especially once they have entered the common mind as such. Ican't speak for Muslim orientated reasons. They probably run along the same lines albeit for different reasons.

 

[javajo]

"Don't let the legitimacy of names fool you, for one named Sophia is not always wise." Matthew Schellinger 6:6:6 (Me)

Whats your point?

Christ is risen. Implying that he 'da man w/ the most correct religion :yes:

 

[Falvlun]

Christ is risen. Implying that he 'da man w/ the most correct religion :yes:

According to your religion...

Islam says that Muhammed was the last prophet, therefore they obviously have the most correct religion.

Do you see how useless that sort of argument is?

 

[javajo]

According to your religion...

Islam says that Muhammed was the last prophet, therefore they obviously have the most correct religion.

Do you see how useless that sort of argument is?

Lets look at that. Was Muhammad a true or false prophet? The OT authors, Jesus, and the NT authors all said Jesus must die for our sins. Isaiah said this in a whole chapter (53), David in Psalm 22, etc. Jesus said he must die and rise again to fulfill scripture (OT). The NT writers said they were eye-witnesses, and we have 4 accounts detailing his death and resurrection. They all died proclaiming this and the message spread in spite of terrible persecution. Then along come Muhammad saying Jesus did not die for our sins on the cross. No death, no resurrection. Who would you believe? Those who saw it and recorded it and preached it and were all killed for it, or someone who comes along 500 some years later? I would go with the eye-witnesses and the scriptures, both OT AND NT that both prophesied and recorded it.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Obviously, there is no "most correct" religion. No one religion or idealogy could ever satisfy all of humanity.

 

[Caladan]

It was previously suggested that Judaism is the most correct religion for mankind. Yosef, a secular Jew, disagrees.

Is Judaism the most correct religion for mankind?? If not, is there another in particular that fits the bill?

I think we all can agree that a religion can be right or wrong for an individual, but collectively or universally, is there one that stands out as a brighter beacon to guide all of humanity?

~ sunsplash
A spiritual seeker on a quest with questions

I'm pretty sure I already posted in this thread. however I'd like sunsplash to explain where they are coming from. not only do Jews do not convert or proselytize, the Rabbis will lay out a challenging ordeal for those who wish to convert into the Jewish community.

 

[Falvlun]

Lets look at that. Was Muhammad a true or false prophet? The OT authors, Jesus, and the NT authors all said Jesus must die for our sins. Isaiah said this in a whole chapter (53), David in Psalm 22, etc. Jesus said he must die and rise again to fulfill scripture (OT). The NT writers said they were eye-witnesses, and we have 4 accounts detailing his death and resurrection. They all died proclaiming this and the message spread in spite of terrible persecution. Then along come Muhammad saying Jesus did not die for our sins on the cross. No death, no resurrection. Who would you believe? Those who saw it and recorded it and preached it and were all killed for it, or someone who comes along 500 some years later? I would go with the eye-witnesses and the scriptures, both OT AND NT that both prophesied and recorded it.

Obviously you didn't understand my post.

Do you not realize that Muslims use the same arguments for why you should believe Islam? The Bible is true, so you should be a Christian. The Koran is true so you should be a Muslim. What's the difference? Nothing. In both cases, you must already have a bias to believe that one or the other is true.

 

[javajo]

Obviously you didn't understand my post.

Do you not realize that Muslims use the same arguments for why you should believe Islam? The Bible is true, so you should be a Christian. The Koran is true so you should be a Muslim. What's the difference? Nothing. In both cases, you must already have a bias to believe that one or the other is true.

I understand. To choose a religion one must step outside their own and examine them objectively. Thankfully a great number of Muslims are coming to Christ despite great persecution. It takes a great amount of study and effort to learn about the different religions and find the truth. That and the Holy Spirit.

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

Obviously you didn't understand my post.

Do you not realize that Muslims use the same arguments for why you should believe Islam? The Bible is true, so you should be a Christian. The Koran is true so you should be a Muslim. What's the difference? Nothing. In both cases, you must already have a bias to believe that one or the other is true.

Hmm... Well, I know they teach some mutually exclusive doctrines (identity of Jesus Christ...) but what if they are both true? I mean, they do have a lot of similarities. Look at how much Christianity has changed and evolved since the time of Christ. I don't know as much about Islam. But isn't it conceivable that they had the same starting point and have just diverged since their inception? I mean, look at how much the opinions and beliefs of each new generation influence the current doctrine of the several churches. take any church on the earth today, separate it into two cultures. Give it one to two thousand years. Don't you think it's likely time would produce two religions that looked much less alike than Christianity and Islam?

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

I understand. To choose a religion one must step outside their own and examine them objectively. Thankfully a great number of Muslims are coming to Christ despite great persecution. It takes a great amount of study and effort to learn about the different religions and find the truth. That and the Holy Spirit.

I would just like to add a warning. Just because what you or me or anyone else believes is "true" doesn't mean it is "all truth." If we ever grow complacent and start feeling special like "Oh yeah! I'm good! I have the truth!" we are damning ourselves. God will give us as much light and knowledge as we are willing and ready to receive. If we ever say, "thanks, that's enough," then it's our loss. This quote says it better than I ever can:

That which is of God is light; and he that receiveth light, and continueth in God, receiveth more light; and that light groweth brighter and brighter until the perfect day.

P.S. I guess if you have reached the "perfect day" you're exempt. For the rest of us, we gotta just keep pluggin away.

 

[Falvlun]

Hmm... Well, I know they teach some mutually exclusive doctrines (identity of Jesus Christ...) but what if they are both true? I mean, they do have a lot of similarities. Look at how much Christianity has changed and evolved since the time of Christ. I don't know as much about Islam. But isn't it conceivable that they had the same starting point and have just diverged since their inception? I mean, look at how much the opinions and beliefs of each new generation influence the current doctrine of the several churches. take any church on the earth today, separate it into two cultures. Give it one to two thousand years. Don't you think it's likely time would produce two religions that looked much less alike than Christianity and Islam?

It's possible.

My two posts were really just directed at the concept that because the Bible says that Christianity is true, Christianity is therefore true.

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

It's possible.

My two posts were really just directed at the concept that because the Bible says that Christianity is true, Christianity is therefore true.

I see... :/