Most popular christian figure?

[Humanistheart]

If you're going to make fun of Christianity, at least do so in an appropriate thread and provide an actual argument instead of just pointlessly associating us with an evil capitalist invention that's used yearly to commercialize our Christmas. Here at RF, we actually try to provide information when we have arguments instead of just hurling insults and names at eachother.


I've seen that action figure at Hastings before =D. It felt pretty good to actually have toys based off of religion, it shows that there's still a market for Christian children.

Look through mistemia's past posting, it will make you feel better. He's not specifically attacking christianity, he just never posts anything of real substance regaurdless of the topic. However 'our christmas' is not exactly accurate, as christmas was a holiday stolen from pagan cultures and whitewashed for christianity.

Anyway, did the OP ever specify what kind of figure he was talking about?
If there's not a restriction on the type of person, I'd say Mary, jesus' mother. Catholics are the largest denomination of christianity and it's my experience that they put more emphasis on mary than they do jesus himself, thus I say that mary must be the most popular christian figure.

 

[T-Dawg]

One would appreciate it if you could, at the very least, follow your own advice...

Could you please elaborate? I honestly have no idea what you're refering to when you say I haven't been following my own advice.

Look through mistemia's past posting, it will make you feel better.

I have seen him in another thread, he appears to be of the type that wants to start a fight with religion at every opportunity and seems to fit my "stereotypical atheist" mold pretty well. But, er, how exactly is that relevant?

However 'our christmas' is not exactly accurate, as christmas was a holiday stolen from pagan cultures and whitewashed for christianity.

True, I have heard of Saturnalia. At least we actually gave the holiday a new name, made a new way to celebrate it (from what I know), and then let the old holiday die out instead of exterminating it. Today, the atheists insist that Christmas be a secular holiday instead of just making their own holiday. It's obviously the atheists just trying to be aggressive, from my viewpoint - if their goal wasn't just to aggravate people, I wouldn't have been laughed at the time I suggested to a group of atheists that Christians could move the celebration of Jesus' birthday (what Christmas was supposed to be) to Jesus' actual birthdate, and that atheists could make a new holiday on the same day the old Christmas was. Their only explanation of why that it would be a bad idea was because the idea was "asinine" (which means something like "silly," "foolish," etc).
Meh, I don't want to talk about Christmas. Christmas is a rather traumatic subject for me due to last year.

 

[J Bryson]

EDIT: Just realized that this was the DIR section. My bad.

 

[McBell]

Could you please elaborate? I honestly have no idea what you're refering to when you say I haven't been following my own advice.

How do you propose I elaborate in a thread where I am only allowed to post questions?

I have seen him in another thread, he appears to be of the type that wants to start a fight with religion at every opportunity and seems to fit my "stereotypical atheist" mold pretty well. But, er, how exactly is that relevant?

Several problems with this...
One, I am not an atheist, stereotypical or otherwise.
I think the closest thing that describes me would be agnostic leaning towards theist.

Two, people who are looking to be offended will be offended, regardless.

Three, If I were looking to start a fight with "religion"(whatever the hell THAT is supposed to mean) I would have gone into much detail about how the vast majority of Christian children think first and for most of Santa Clause every year on Jesus birthday... I would then go into even further detail how Christians are doing a really bad job at teaching their children the "true meaning" of Christmas as evidenced by the fact that most children think of Santa come Christmas time.

four, Perhaps if you were to ask for an explanation instead of trying to martyr yourself over nothing more than the mere mention of the name Santa Claus...

Five, I cannot help but wonder why you jump up and down on my alleged stereotyping of Christians, yet have absolutely no problem stuffing me into your "atheist mold"....

 

[T-Dawg]

How do you propose I elaborate in a thread where I am only allowed to post questions?

You're only allowed to post questions in this thread? If you really have something to say, you can PM me.

One, I am not an atheist, stereotypical or otherwise.

Ah, yes, I remember, we already had this discussion. Sorry if I forget that again.

Two, people who are looking to be offended will be offended, regardless.

True.

Three, If I were looking to start a fight with "religion"(whatever the hell THAT is supposed to mean) I would have gone into much detail about how the vast majority of Christian children think first and for most of Santa Clause every year on Jesus birthday... I would then go into even further detail how Christians are doing a really bad job at teaching their children the "true meaning" of Christmas as evidenced by the fact that most children think of Santa come Christmas time.

Again, true. I hate hypocrisy in Christianity as much as you do.

four, Perhaps if you were to ask for an explanation instead of trying to martyr yourself over nothing more than the mere mention of the name Santa Claus...

Martyring myself was not my intention, although I admit I probably go a bit too worked up over two words.

Five, I cannot help but wonder why you jump up and down on my alleged stereotyping of Christians, yet have absolutely no problem stuffing me into your "atheist mold"....

The "atheist mold" actually doesn't apply to the vast majority of atheists, hence why I put it in quotation marks. I was trying to say that you were beginning to look like the stereotypical image of atheist projected by a lot of fundamentalist Christians and churches.

 

[Smoke]

However, in the protestant world, who do you think is the most popular christian?
By most popular, I mean, when you mention his or her name, almost everyone knows about him/her.

Queen Elizabeth II?

 

[McBell]

You're only allowed to post questions in this thread?

Yes, though I have noticed that so long as discussion remains civil, sometimes that rule is not rigidly enforced.

Ah, yes, I remember, we already had this discussion. Sorry if I forget that again.

No worries.

Martyring myself was not my intention, although I admit I probably go a bit too worked up over two words.

I suspect that it has to do with your putting into your mold...
Not everyone has the motive of attacking when they post something that seems contradictory to what you believe.

The "atheist mold" actually doesn't apply to the vast majority of atheists, hence why I put it in quotation marks. I was trying to say that you were beginning to look like the stereotypical image of atheist projected by a lot of fundamentalist Christians and churches.

Based on how many posts?
I encourage you to look at my posts.
ALL of them.
THEN decide how big an arse I am.

 

[T-Dawg]

Not everyone has the motive of attacking when they post something that seems contradictory to what you believe.

Most people do. That's what humans do, theist and atheist alike - they tear eachother down, make fun of eachother, they fight and argue. The second I start to think otherwise, someone conveniently drops by to remind me how evil humanity in general is.
Has there even been one instance in history where a theist said something about his religion without an atheist having something to say about what he said, or an instance where an atheist says something and not even one theist gets worked up over it (that is, in a situation where both sides were able to respond)? There's probably one somewhere, but I have not seen it.

I encourage you to look at my posts.
ALL of them.
THEN decide how big an arse I am.

Is there a way to do that besides sifting through every thread in the history of RF searching for your posts?
If there is, I'd be glad to use it, you're not the only one I need to know more about .

EDIT: Found the "Find all posts" button, I'll look at it.
EDIT2: Hmm, it doesn't look like you're an arse from what I see. Guess I just ran into you at the wrong time of the day or something.
This in particular I found interesting:

Well, if we are going to get into personal beliefs...
I do not believe the Biblical deity to be omni anything.
the Bible just does not support the theory.

If the Bible does not state that God is omni anything (which from what I remember, it actually doesn't directly state it), where did this belief come from?

 

[McBell]

Most people do. That's what humans do, theist and atheist alike - they tear eachother down, make fun of eachother, they fight and argue. The second I start to think otherwise, someone conveniently drops by to remind me how evil humanity in general is.
Has there even been one instance in history where a theist said something about his religion without an atheist having something to say about what he said, or an instance where an atheist says something and not even one theist gets worked up over it (that is, in a situation where both sides were able to respond)? There's probably one somewhere, but I have not seen it.

Is there a way to do that besides sifting through every thread in the history of RF searching for your posts?
If there is, I'd be glad to use it, you're not the only one I need to know more about .

EDIT: Found the "Find all posts" button, I'll look at it.
EDIT2: Hmm, it doesn't look like you're an arse from what I see. Guess I just ran into you at the wrong time of the day or something.
This in particular I found interesting:
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If the Bible does not state that God is omni anything (which from what I remember, it actually doesn't directly state it), where did this belief come from?

So as not to derail this thread any further, I would suggest you start a new thread and post the link to it here.

 

[ayani]

Martin Luther, John Calvin, Billy Graham, and others.

but Martin Luther seems to come to mind for most.

 

[The Middle]

Obama.