A gnostic atheist accepts a belief as fact and then lives life in a specific way according to that blind faith.
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Most Simplistic Religion
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A gnostic atheist accepts a belief as fact and then lives life in a specific way according to that blind faith.
outhouse
Atheistically
serp777
Well-Known Member
Holding one proposition to be true--that God certainly does not exist--does not mean that person is apart of a religion. If they are apart of a religion that means by definition then, they're not longer an atheist. Just because you have beliefs that you are pretty much certain are true doesn't mean you're apart of a religion. A religion is an institution that has a variety of believers who worship something supernatural.
For example i basically accept the truth that there is gravity, that evolution is true, and that semiconductors work. None of these beliefs make me religious. A no one with intelligence can claim that something is certainly 100% true. There's always a margin of error--it could be that 0.000000001% chance we all live in the matrix, but there is no way to disprove the matrix so we can't be 100% true of anything really.
The theory of evolution in a nutshell, if you take all the component parts of a television, resistors, caps, ICs, picture tube, transformers, some solder, and a soldering iron, and put them all into a large tumbler, over the space of many many years it will eventually evolve into a functioning complete Television Set??
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
It lost meaning once Muhammed died. I'm of the belief it was the tool of obedience formulated by an intelligent Arab warlord.
serp777
Well-Known Member
No, because why would a television be more evolutionary favorable than those individual components? Those components are also not capable of moving or reproducing, so your analogy, in addition to being terrible, reflects a profound misunderstanding of how evolution works.
There are, however, evolutionary computer programs that compete for memory and improve over time, changing their source code and mutating based on random number generators and natural selection. Its called an evolutionary computer algorithm.
Its not even a complex theory really at the basics--take a self replicating object which contains information. After each iteration, the information changes. Sometimes the replication will fail, but sometimes a small change will help the self replicating organism be more efficient, or otherwise assist with survival or replication.
If you don't accept evolution you're probably not intellectual and do not understand the scientific method whatsoever. Even if you didn't have a theory which explained pretty much all the natural world, you still have a mountain of genetic, fossil, and analogous computer simulation evidence to make this theory pretty much equivalent to gravity in terms of reliability.
And without evolution, how do you explain anti biotic resistant bacteria, which only emerged in the last century because of human anti biotic use?
serp777
Well-Known Member
Whenever you're faced with an argument too complicated for you to understand, revert back to some useless cliche that rebuttals nothing! I am thoroughly unimpressed by your debate skills. Don't post in the debate section if you're not going to debate please.
Or i've got one: a nonsense nonsense claim
serp777
Well-Known Member
So if you're not qualified for debate then why are you calling my arguments nonsense? I mean if you're just going to cop out then don't give some ignorant analogy about evolution being like electronic components turning into a TV when churned through a tumbler.
Plus being a violin repairer doesn't have anything to do with the validity of your arguments. Nor was I looking for you to be on my debate team--I certainly wouldn't want to lose that badly lol.
JRMcC
Active Member
Maybe Krishna Consciousness is the most simple religion. God is an immortal and all powerful person and all things emanate from him. The purpose of life is to praise him. Christianity involves rising from the dead, suffering for our sins, ect. Krishna Consciousness is simpler than that.
serp777
Well-Known Member
I find that good debates are pretty intelligent, and this is the religious debate section. perhaps the creationism fanclub section would be more appropriate for your opinions.
JRMcC
Active Member
Hey buddy obviously not everyone is going to accept modern science on "religious forums" let it go.
serp777
Well-Known Member
That wasn't what I was talking about though. He's welcome to hold a position on creationism, and I expect that on this forum, but if he makes a post and then calls my counter arguments nonsense without any kind of rebuttal, he shouldn't be on the debate section; rather he should be on the coddling creationist fanboy section. I mean its just a cheap cop out that is obnoxious and alleges that i only speak nonsense.
serp777
Well-Known Member
Its intended for anyone that debates. You weren't debating-- you just bluntly called my entire post nonsense which is essentially giving up. I appreciate you implying im a professional debater though lol.
This is simply untrue, as belief in god is unnecessary for religion.
outhouse
Atheistically
That is a fallacy, and in a nutshell based on misinformation and a lack of knowledge on the topic at hand.
Evolution is fact, and it is taught in every credible university world wide.
ID and creation has only been beat down in a court of law and deemed pseudo science, and outlawed from public schools in science class.