Mother Mary, mother of Jesus

[paarsurrey]

Mother Mary, mother of Jesus​

A sweet and honorable young woman of a small Palestinian village that was bequeathed to an older, successful business man. She was a woman who observed her eldest son as "different" and I'm sure her heart struggled a great deal long before his 30th year. She was a woman of strength, patience, love, and endurance and one I would have been honored to know.

Although probably not even 50 when her son was crucified, I doubt she had the strength to live much longer after such an ordeal.

But where did Mother Mary go after the "ordeal" , please, right?

Regards

 

[Spice]

Mother Mary, mother of Jesus​

But where did Mother Mary go after the "ordeal" , please, right?

Regards

I haven't a clue.

 

[rstrats]

The gestation vessel for bringing the Messiah into the physical world.

 

[paarsurrey]

Mother Mary, mother of Jesus
paarsurrey said:
But where did Mother Mary go after the "ordeal" , please, right?

I haven't a clue.

Just check on the internet for Yeshua and his mother and people in the world who genuinely are off-spring of (Jesus)Yeshua, please, right?

Regards

 

[Glaurung]

The Mother of God and the Queen of Heaven.

 

[paarsurrey]

Mother Mary, mother of Jesus

Mother Mary, mother of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah (who never was a worldly Zionist nor he belonged to the Judaic clan); she was an innocent Israelite with great merits as was his son:

3:43 And remember when the angels said, ‘O Mary, Allah has chosen thee and purified thee and chosen thee above the women of all peoples.
3:44 ‘O Mary, be obedient to thy Lord and prostrate thyself and worship God alone with those who worship.’
3:45 This is of the tidings of things unseen which We reveal to thee*. And thou wast not with them when they cast their arrows, as to which of them should be the guardian of Mary, nor wast thou with them when they disputed with one another. Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
*Muhammad

Right?

Regards
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Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below:-
3:43 وَاِذۡ قَالَتِ الۡمَلٰٓئِکَۃُ یٰمَرۡیَمُ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ اصۡطَفٰکِ وَطَہَّرَکِ وَاصۡطَفٰکِ عَلٰی نِسَآءِ الۡعٰلَمِیۡنَ ﴿۴۳
3:44 یٰمَرۡیَمُ اقۡنُتِیۡ لِرَبِّکِ وَاسۡجُدِیۡ وَارۡکَعِیۡ مَعَ الرّٰکِعِیۡنَ ﴿۴۴
3:45 ذٰلِکَ مِنۡ اَنۡۢبَآءِ الۡغَیۡبِ نُوۡحِیۡہِ اِلَیۡکَ ؕ وَمَا کُنۡتَ لَدَیۡہِمۡ اِذۡ یُلۡقُوۡنَ اَقۡلَامَہُمۡ اَیُّہُمۡ یَکۡفُلُ مَرۡیَمَ ۪ وَمَا کُنۡتَ لَدَیۡہِمۡ اِذۡ یَخۡتَصِمُوۡنَ ﴿۴۵

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Mother Mary, mother of (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah (who never was a worldly Zionist nor he belonged to the Judaic clan); she was an innocent Israelite with great merits as was his son:

1. Since she actually lived in Judea, it would make no sense for her to want a homeland that was in fact already present in her day.
2. By the first century CE, her people were no longer called Israelites, but Jews. Same people, just the name had changed. So it although it is technically correct that she was an Israelite, such a term would have been awkward in her age. It is more appropriate to refer to her as a Jew.

 

[PureX]

Mary, the mother of Jesus, is a character on the story of Jesus of Nazareth's life, death, and resurrection. All I know of her is what is revealed in the story.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Mother Mary, mother of Jesus​

But where did Mother Mary go after the "ordeal" , please, right?

Regards

There are many details that stories leave out, because they are not relevant to the main thrust of the story. The gospels say that Mary was present with John at the crucifixion and death of Jesus. The book of Acts says that Mary was present in the upper room on Pentecost, so she was hanging out with other disciples. There is an Ephesus tradition that Mary lived with John in Ephesus (in modern day Turkey) until the end of her life. In Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy there is as tradition that she was assumed into heaven, some versions of the story this happens after she dies, and in other versions, before death. The accuracy of ANY of these accounts (and especially the last one) is dubious.

There are stories about Mary in non-canonical gospels, but these were written so far in the future, that they are worthless as historical sources.

 

[rstrats]

The gospels say that Mary was present with John at the crucifixion and death of Jesus.

Actually, only one of the Gospels places Mary at the crucifixion and none of them mentions a John.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Actually, only one of the Gospels places Mary at the crucifixion

I don't think Christians care that it is only mentioned in John. There are many beliefs of Christians that are mentioned in only one gospel.

and none of them mentions a John.

The "disciple whom Jesus loved" is commonly understood to refer to John. You are free to disagree or to say we don't know. I personally find all the details about Jesus arrest, trial, crucifixion, and resurrection to be completely suspect. I think it is likely that Pilate tried him and he died by crucifixion. That's as far as I'm willing to go.

 

[rstrats]

I don't think Christians care that it is only mentioned in John.

Probably not. I was just trying to keep you honest with regard to your use of the plural.

The "disciple whom Jesus loved" is commonly understood to refer to John.

Agree. Again, just trying to keep you honest with regard to your declarative phrase that the gospels say that it was John at the crucifixion when they merely say that it was the disciple whom Jesus loved.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Probably not. I was just trying to keep you honest with regard to your use of the plural.

Agree. Again, just trying to keep you honest with regard to your declarative phrase that the gospels say that it was John at the crucifixion when they merely say that it was the disciple whom Jesus loved.

I do understand your point, and thank you for pointing it out to me.

I tend to use "the gospels" as a collective noun, rightly or wrongly, a single group of four books, similar to how one might say "litter" or "swarm" or "herd." I will typically say, "But that is in the gospels" even if something is mentioned only in one place. It's not different than saying "It's in the Bible," even though the Bible has many, may books, and it's only mentioned in one place.

 

[rstrats]

I do understand your point, and thank you for pointing it out to me.

I tend to use "the gospels" as a collective noun, rightly or wrongly, a single group of four books, similar to how one might say "litter" or "swarm" or "herd." I will typically say, "But that is in the gospels" even if something is mentioned only in one place. It's not different than saying "It's in the Bible," even though the Bible has many, may books, and it's only mentioned in one place.

I'm not sure "the gospels say" is the same thing as saying "it's in the gospels" or that "gospels", a plural noun, is the same as "Bible", a singular noun, for comparison/analogy purposes. I'll have to give it some deep cognitivetorical (if it's not already in the dictionary, it should be) thought.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I'm not sure "the gospels say" is the same thing as saying "it's in the gospels" or that "gospels", a plural noun, is the same as "Bible", a singular noun, for comparison/analogy purposes. I'll have to give it some deep cognitivetorical (if it's not already in the dictionary, it should be) thought.

I just can't come up with another possibility for a collective noun for the four gospels other than "the gospels."

Again, I do appreciate your point, and I have no problem at all with you pointing out that this or that is found in only one of the four gospels. I hope you can appreciate my point that there is a need for a collective noun here, and "the gospels" seems to be the only choice.