What is the view of posters on this forum of Mother Teresa? Some say she was a saint others don't think she was that wonderful. I did meet someone who knew her personally, and wasn't very impressed with her! She died on the day of Diana's funeral and there wasn't too much fuss made about her death in contrast to Diana, who refuses to RIP unfortunately. I suspect if Diana had a face like Mother T the woman would have been long forgotten!
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Mother Teresa
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Smoke
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I'm not that impressed with Mother Teresa, either, for reasons I've gone into elsewhere -- her glorification of suffering, her reluctance to use the vast sums she accumulated to do anything practical to help the poor, and her rather deceptive means of persuading non-Christians to be baptized on their deathbeds. Basically, just a crazy old nun with a gift for raising money and hanging on to it with remarkable tenacity. The Hetty Green of Catholicism.
As for Diana, I have mixed feelings. I don't think anybody would have considered her so strikingly beautiful if she hadn't been the Princess of Wales, and I think she successfully manipulated the media to appear the victim in a situation in which she was at least as much at fault as her husband. On the other hand, I don't think she's as much overrated as MT, because she actually tried to use her influence to improve the lot of the less fortunate, and she actually accomplished a great deal in that respect, even if much of her accomplishment was in raising public awareness.
As for Diana, I have mixed feelings. I don't think anybody would have considered her so strikingly beautiful if she hadn't been the Princess of Wales, and I think she successfully manipulated the media to appear the victim in a situation in which she was at least as much at fault as her husband. On the other hand, I don't think she's as much overrated as MT, because she actually tried to use her influence to improve the lot of the less fortunate, and she actually accomplished a great deal in that respect, even if much of her accomplishment was in raising public awareness.
Pariah
Let go
That's the way I see it and the way people see it in India.
Smoke
Done here.
She was a famous American miser in the late 19th and early 20th century. She was reputed during her lifetime to be the richest woman in America. I don't know if that was true, but she was very well off. It was said that she never heated her house, wore one old dress till it was rags, and refused to pay her son's medical bills, resulting in his losing a leg.
Buttercup
Veteran Member
Seems as though I read she used to reheat the day before's oatmeal for breakfast as well. If you have seen a picture of her.....her countenance matches the rumors aptly.
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
It's real sad when you get known even many years after your death, for your utter miserliness. In Islam miserliness is a major sin. It is a great wrong to hoard wealth and count it for the sake of hoarding, to the point where even the person with the wealth does not take benefit. In Islam one must spend their wealth on themselves, their families, and then the excess is to be spent on the wayfarer, the poor, the widows, the orphans, and this is counted as spending in the way of Allah. The giving of zakat and sadaqah, purifies both the wealth and the heart of the person holding it. It combats miserliness, and arrogance due to and caused by wealth.
If mother teresa was a hoarder of wealth, then I too am not impressed. I never was actually. If indeed she held on to the money she got, and did not spend it on the poor she was allegedly helping, then she was not helping at all. In fact in my estimation she hurt only herself. SHe was not doing anything for the pleasure of God but rather to line her pockets or the church or whatever. Her intention comes under immediate question due to her actions, or inaction as it were.
If mother teresa was a hoarder of wealth, then I too am not impressed. I never was actually. If indeed she held on to the money she got, and did not spend it on the poor she was allegedly helping, then she was not helping at all. In fact in my estimation she hurt only herself. SHe was not doing anything for the pleasure of God but rather to line her pockets or the church or whatever. Her intention comes under immediate question due to her actions, or inaction as it were.
That was wonderful. Thanks ...
What bugs me about her is that the dying in her hospital if you can call it that, slept on pallets on a dirt floor, had no pain killing drugs, and yet when she was sick she was
treated at a clinic in Paris or New York. I find it hard to get my mind around that.
peace
blackout
Violet.
So was there no deeper worth in her work?
I don't know.
I find this a very sad commentary.
I know nothing of the money issues,
and certainly do not defend the RC prostelatizing...
but are these women wasting their lives doing what they're doing?
I mean...
is it all just a sham?
Just what is it they ARE doing?
Does what they're NOT doing somehow override what they are doing?
All those years MTheresa slept on a mat on the floor,
when she could have slept on a bed.
Does this all mean anything?
or not. Obviously I am missing a large picture of this story.
I don't know.
I find this a very sad commentary.
I know nothing of the money issues,
and certainly do not defend the RC prostelatizing...
but are these women wasting their lives doing what they're doing?
I mean...
is it all just a sham?
Just what is it they ARE doing?
Does what they're NOT doing somehow override what they are doing?
All those years MTheresa slept on a mat on the floor,
when she could have slept on a bed.
Does this all mean anything?
or not. Obviously I am missing a large picture of this story.
Were saying that the reality of MT was not apparently the same as public persona!
Smoke
Done here.
Well, it means nothing to me if she slept on a mat. Is that something I ought to admire?
What did she do, and what are her sisters doing, that we ought to admire?
porkchop
I'm Heffer!!!
From what i know of the woman, she did alot of good, but from the info. im finding out from this thread, she did alot of bad. To me she had a typical catholic outlook, martyrdom ( i can say this having been raised a catholic and based on what i was taught). She tried to help alot of people, worked hard, thats about it. People put her up there with the pope, neither of them are important figures to me.
Pariah
Let go
Embezzlement?
That is a serious charge and one of which I hadn't heard, can you explain what you mean?
Master Vigil
Well-Known Member
Is there any sources to these allegations? Christopher Hitchens I believe is the one who brought forth these allegations, does anyone have any links to his works sourcing this information?
blackout
Violet.
I guess my reference to her sleeping on the floor was is regards to this comment.
I'm not defending her in my post BTW... but it's obvious that I must be missing something... and I'm trying to figure out what that is.
Well that's what I'm asking, in light of the comments here.
