movies are art, not entertainment

[SalixIncendium]

The movie, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, came to mind.
It's fun entertainment.
But I also inferred a sly philosophical message about
existentialism & examining one's choices in life.
It did that without being preachy.

Idiocracy is an even better example of this.
It makes a very clear statement about the dumbing down of society without being preachy.

 

[Revoltingest]

Idiocracy is an even better example of this.
It makes a very clear statement about the dumbing down of society without being preachy.

I recall trying to watch it.
Didn't capture my interest.

 

[1137]

I don't think it is objective

It is possible that two people could watch the same thing and one person call it a film and the other call it a movie

And they would both be right as there is no authority who can rule whether it is actually either a film or a movie

I honestly disagree. With many movies, sure. The best illustration I heard was to look at David Fincher. Fight Club and The Game are both great movies in their own way, but one is a movie and one is a film. Can you guess which is which?

 

[1137]

I recall trying to watch it.
Didn't capture my interest.

Holy moly we agree

 

[Revoltingest]

Holy moly we agree

 

[Eddi]

I honestly disagree. With many movies, sure. The best illustration I heard was to look at David Fincher. Fight Club and The Game are both great movies in their own way, but one is a movie and one is a film. Can you guess which is which?

I have never seen The Game, so no

But nonetheless I feel moved to quote from another film... or movie:

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man.

 

[Revoltingest]

A few movies I like, that effete critics might call "film"....
Gattaca (1997)
Psycho (1960)
The Godfather (1972)
High Noon
Brazil (1985)
Goodfellas (1990)
Big Fish (2003)

Sometimes the best art is in the score
("program music"), set design, etc.
Notice how great movies so very often
have great scores. Would they be
great without them? Yes, but less so.

 

[PureX]

I have just noticed something....

The movies forum is under "Entertainment" but the literature and music forums are under "Art"

I think this is wrong and that the movie forum should be under the "Art" alongside literature and music

What do people think?

Most movies are created for the purpose of entertainment. So is most music and a fair amount of literature, too. The problem is that almost no one knows what the actual difference between art and entertainment is, and would only fight with anyone who dared to explain it to them. Because most people define "art" as being "whatever I like" ... i.e., whatever entertains them. Because they like being entertained. So they just blindly assume that the purpose of art is to entertain them.

And if this isn't confusing enough, art can also BE entertaining. And it often is. Even though this is not why it was created, and is not it's primary purpose.

 

[Klaught]

Movies are a form of art, not just entertainment. It's like a visual masterpiece

 

[PureX]

Movies are one of many forms of expression that artists can use to present their creative experience to others. But most movies are not made for that purpose. They are made to entertain people in exchange for money.

 

[Klaught]

Movies are a form of art, not just entertainment. It's like a visual masterpiece

Putting the movie forum under "Art" makes sense to me. However, I also really like Christian art for my walls. What about you?