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Movies...media influence on people Agree/Disagree ?

Could Movies (media) impact on people thoughts and opinions ?


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idav

Being
Premium Member
I think people who are normally sick already are susceptible to do something like repeating a crime cause they saw a movie. It doesn't matter for some people, happy optimistic fluffy influences won't fix it.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Yes, I believe you are asking if people will commit adultery because a famous person did it in a movie.

Yes many of million of people are imitate the famous person .
I think the answer to that specific question is no. If the market was saturated with messages condoning adultery or we had no contradicting messages then I can imagine we would see an increase in adultery. But I think your question is misleading.

You are talking about violence and adultery. People's views on these subjects are pretty cemented. In fact, most people even those who commit these acts view these subjects negatively. The reason they act in contradiction to this belief, has little if anything to do with movies, and much to do with emotion and impulse control.

this is the question how much the movies (or media) influencing in our thoughts (way of life) ?

many people are fans of watching action or romance or erotic or horror movies , so i guess it's just farvorite matter how she/he want to be influenced . some people mind are just like receivers , or hard disk .
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I think people who are normally sick already are susceptible to do something like repeating a crime cause they saw a movie. It doesn't matter for some people, happy optimistic fluffy influences won't fix it.

i believe there are crime imitated by movie .

the media now is generalizing the sexual effect in everything (clips,movies,publications, magazins ....etc)

sex is became for long time like attractive tool to make more viewers so make more money .sex movies and sites make fortunes by . , so immorality is become commun and develpement !!

so i believe movie and media are responsible for sicking people ,especialy teenagers .
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Influence or control. They are not the same thing. But your OP, perhaps due to an understandable language barrier, uses them interchangeably. At what point can someone become so influenced that they are controlled? I think that line may vary individually.
But adults are adults. No one can go up to a Judge and tell them that a movie they saw made them kill someone and expect to escape blame. (Although frustratingly people seem to try to pull that crap, especially with video games.)

It's like being "made to do insert awful act here by Satan." Sure, you can believe that. But it removes all culpability. It renders you nothing more than a puppet to be led around. If that is the case then we would have to release all manner of criminals, simply perform exorcisms upon them and release them into the community without worry.

Yes, media can influence people.
No, I don't think they can control them (maybe in countries where information is strictly limited. North Korea or China. Which is interestingly the complete opposite situation of "introducing ideas.")

As to "lowering morality" ehhh, people have been whining about that for centuries now. The Libertine movement started, after all, during the 1700s.
And the roaring 20s weren't exactly the peachy 50's sitcoms the older generation likes to pretend it was.

Although I am kind of curious to see what possible media could have "influenced" such things. I'm being serious, too. Must have been quite interesting to say the least!
 
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Flankerl

Well-Known Member
So... the kid who was inspired to pursue a career in the sciences after watching a movie that involved cool science is an idiot.

Good to know!

So the guy who was inspired to rape someone after watching a movie that involved rape should go free.

Good to know.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
So the guy who was inspired to rape someone after watching a movie that involved rape should go free.

Good to know.

Not what I said. You, however, said this:


If people are so influenced by Films then they are idiots and shouldn't be in control of anything.

... with no qualifiers whatsoever. If you didn't mean for it to be taken to apply to all types of inspiration from watching movies, perhaps you should communicate more clearly in the future?

Of course, even with qualifiers, I still think you're wrong. Being inspired by something, positive or negative, doesn't make one an idiot (fundamental attribution error, ho!).
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
i believe there are crime imitated by movie .

the media now is generalizing the sexual effect in everything (clips,movies,publications, magazins ....etc)

sex is became for long time like attractive tool to make more viewers so make more money .sex movies and sites make fortunes by . , so immorality is become commun and develpement !!

so i believe movie and media are responsible for sicking people ,especialy teenagers .
For the most part movie and media are reflections and exaggerations of real events.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Just a suppose question , could mass influence of Media (movies,clips,series,show,Youtube,...etc) on people equal to control , so you suppose that MEDIA had ZERO effects on our choices and opinion so actions ?

I mean if you keep and keep infleunced by all kind of Media

as i notice that some movies deliver the idea that cheat on is good, or immoral sex is good . or steorotypes : Muslims are terrorists , Russian and Latinas are gangs and whores ....etc

Different people have different levels of sense, discernment, and objectivity.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Hi all

I was discuss with friend in other thread about influence of Movies on people , so i disagree with him , i said Movies could influence on people , he said no the "Adult" people whom reponsible for their acts , there is no influence of media on them . (as i understand that his opinion)

.so some movies may contian some ideas , as cheating is good , some may encourage the voilence , and some encourage the adultery , and Horror movies make some people fear the darkness area .....etc



do you agree that could movies (and media) impact on people thought or not

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Peace be on you.
Good movies will do good and vice versa. Intention counts. One can learn and convey peaceful ideas but avoid negative influences.....
More https://www.google.com/search?q=how...eace+violence+wisdom+dull+psychology&start=10
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Different people have different levels of sense, discernment, and objectivity.
could the media impact on these too ? " sense, "discerment" and "objectivity" of someone ??

since there is addiction for Internet or Movies or TV , how it's not possible that media on general don't impact in people thoughts and desires ?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So Fox News?
i heard about that Fox News had bad reputation in West .

but i think most of most of Media news sometimes they show their opinion between the lines .

Here in Arab world , we had Aljazeera is had bad reputation too , so it's lost many of fans after it's become the supporter (had responsibility) of Libya and Syria civil wars in many Arab view, and Aljazeera try to do that with Egypt conflict . but it's failed .

that's depend to person choice , which kind of news he/she want to hear .
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Influence or control. They are not the same thing. But your OP, perhaps due to an understandable language barrier, uses them interchangeably. At what point can someone become so influenced that they are controlled? I think that line may vary individually.
But adults are adults. No one can go up to a Judge and tell them that a movie they saw made them kill someone and expect to escape blame. (Although frustratingly people seem to try to pull that crap, especially with video games.)

It's like being "made to do insert awful act here by Satan." Sure, you can believe that. But it removes all culpability. It renders you nothing more than a puppet to be led around. If that is the case then we would have to release all manner of criminals, simply perform exorcisms upon them and release them into the community without worry.

Yes, media can influence people.
No, I don't think they can control them (maybe in countries where information is strictly limited. North Korea or China. Which is interestingly the complete opposite situation of "introducing ideas.")

As to "lowering morality" ehhh, people have been whining about that for centuries now. The Libertine movement started, after all, during the 1700s.
And the roaring 20s weren't exactly the peachy 50's sitcoms the older generation likes to pretend it was.

Although I am kind of curious to see what possible media could have "influenced" such things. I'm being serious, too. Must have been quite interesting to say the least!
i am not said it's total control , as slaves !

What is the different between i make you change your mind (influenced/minded) or control your mind ?

how about whom addiction to Internet,or TV or Cinema or Games ...etc , is not that kind of control ?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
i am not said it's total control , as slaves !

Merely differentiating the terms. English can be a really messy language.

What is the different between i make you change your mind (influenced/minded) or control your mind ?

Ahh, now we could open up a discussion about where do we think influence ends and control begins. Do they overlap? How much overlap? And so on.
But I'm too lazy. So I will instead say how I personally see things.

An influence may sway my opinion. My personality even. To control, to me, is to literally make or force me to do something. The last time I watched Boardwalk Empire I do not recall any character, writer or director leaping from my screen, pointing a 1920s style gun to my head and forcing me to anything. I am not going to run out and try to make Meth because I own and watch the entire series of Breaking Bad. I am not going to become entangled in a plot to kill a usurping king just because I read Hamlet. I will not gallivant around the Moors engaged in a bitter family dispute because I read Wurthering Heights. Etc etc etc ad nauseam.

If I, as an adult, commit a crime, I alone am responsible. I could have very well been influenced to do this crime. I could have even been convinced by my father that to complete said crime meant fulfilling my religious duties. But I don't know how well that excuse could work in a legal proceeding.
If someone pointed a gun to my head, told me to commit a crime or I'd die, I would have a pretty strong defense case.
But see, to me, the whole "the media showed me this so I did it" is kind of the adult equivalent of telling your parents that everyone is piercing their bellybutton and so you should be allowed to as well. It's kind of....(to me at least) juvenile and reeks of trying to get out of owning up to your own mistakes in order to dodge responsibility. Like a teenager trying to escape detention for being irresponsible.
It's one thing to admit that you're doing something just to fit in. But did anyone actively force you to do whatever it is you did to fit in? Or did you, as a person, do whatever it is of your own free will with full understanding of the consequences?
Of course one could also argue societal influence. But then that could potentially lead to a discussion about civility and how much of our animal instinct do we actively ignore in order to fit in. If at all or how much. But again, too lazy.

Can a person be more easily swayed than another? Yes.
Are some people more susceptible to advertising or influence than others? Yes.
Is the media influencing us? Yes.
Can some people be convinced to commit a crime because they saw it on TV/Movie/Book? Yes......but, usually that sort of lack of boundaries between fantasy/fiction and reality often comes with an unstable or otherwise problematic mental state to begin with.

how about whom addiction to Internet,or TV or Cinema or Games ...etc , is not that kind of control ?

Though I can offer random incomplete musings about humans in general, I fear I am not a shrink. So I really couldn't say. Maybe, maybe not. I honestly don't know exactly how addictions themselves work.

Though I will say you can get addicted to literally anything in this world. Even cereal. What effect then does breakfast have on those addicted to Corn Flakes? I don't know, but it sounds like it could be an amusingly cruel game.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
thank for this long reply !!

I just quote to discuss .

Can a person be more easily swayed than another? Yes.
Are some people more susceptible to advertising or influence than others? Yes.
Is the media influencing us? Yes.
Can some people be convinced to commit a crime because they saw it on TV/Movie/Book? Yes......but, usually that sort of lack of boundaries between fantasy/fiction and reality often comes with an unstable or otherwise problematic mental state to begin with.
so how about Movies whom sweeting the cheating , could not convinced SOME people to cheat on , because they saw in ?




Though I will say you can get addicted to literally anything in this world. Even cereal. What effect then does breakfast have on those addicted to Corn Flakes? I don't know, but it sounds like it could be an amusingly cruel game.
don't heard ever about Internet addicted ? so TV so Games ..;etc
 
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