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Murugan worshippers here?

Shrew

Active Member
Do you consider Murugan as the South Indian version of Skanda, or do you think Skanda and Murugan are different gods?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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I had been thinking of making a Murugan bhaktas thread.

Same same. Murugan, Karttikeya, Skanda, Subramanium, Saravanabhava, Shanmukha, Guha.

My view also.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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I'm a fan of Lord Ayyappa also. However, suffice to say, I'll never climb the 18 steps if you get my drift. :(
 

Bhadr

Active Member
Do you consider Murugan as the South Indian version of Skanda, or do you think Skanda and Murugan are different gods?

No such thing as South Indian or North Indian god at all.He is known by various names in various places. He has hundreds of names.
I call Him Sri Bala Subrahmanya (Bala means infant).Once in a temple I heard another colloquial name of his - Subbaraaya,this is a beautiful name too.

Salutations to Him, the Great Warrior who sportively slayed the asura Taraka,
Salutations to Him whom the sages approach to gain wisdom.

Lots of images of Subbaraaya incoming,be prepared for a flood of familial love.:D

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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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OK, sorry to sidetrack. Here's the Sri Subramanya Ashtakam by the Sulamangalam Sisters. I love this.

 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I attend (and donate to) a SF Bay Area Shiva Murugan Temple, where of course there is darshan of Muruga.

I have different experiences of the darshan effect depending on murti.

Honestly, I do not recall a Kartikeya specific temple in the United States, though I have seen in India Lord Kartikeya. To me, I think of the Six Mothers in the Pleiades and the “birth” of the God of War, which yes I consider a manifestation of Skanda. The energy from Kartikeya seems to have a power of victory. He is North India to me, leelas or footprints there.

Skanda is very electric and has a great army. He is middle India to me, leelas or footprints there. Some Skanda murtis were later turned into Vishnu murtis, as what happened to Surya and archaic image of Kubera as well.

Then we head South, yes now we see the strong presence of Muruga and Subramanya. Here is feel also a very strong electric energy but mixed with prema or love. The Lord here had leelas or loves and adventures with the feminine aspect strongly connected to humans. This included a daughter of a hunter clan. Because these occurred in the South, naturally Muruga is popular in the South India region. The Vel or lance is also a power associated with Muruga, and is also a power in itself and to me is like a “younger sister” with force. This can defeat demons and is Shakti power next to Murugan.

I see them all the same, also. They are the same son of Shiva and Ganesha's brother.

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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Vinayaka is the biggest Murugan devotee here. Though we do not know him in North India as Murugan, he is always there with the other members of the family in all Shiva temples.
 

von bek

Well-Known Member
No such thing as South Indian or North Indian god at all.He is known by various names in various places. He has hundreds of names.
I call Him Sri Bala Subrahmanya (Bala means infant).Once in a temple I heard another colloquial name of his - Subbaraaya,this is a beautiful name too.

Salutations to Him, the Great Warrior who sportively slayed the asura Taraka,
Salutations to Him whom the sages approach to gain wisdom.

Lots of images of Subbaraaya incoming,be prepared for a flood of familial love.:D

I notice a peacock in several of the images you shared. May I ask which deity the peacock is being associated with? Is it Murugan or Parvati? (I'm pretty sure it isn't Shiva.)
 

von bek

Well-Known Member
So, I investigated my question. I see it is Murugan. I asked because the peacock is a sacred animal of Hera, Queen of the Gods in my beliefs.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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So, I investigated my question. I see it is Murugan. I asked because the peacock is a sacred animal of Hera, Queen of the Gods in my beliefs.

The peacock is also associated with Saraswati and Krishna. The blue peafowl is native to India. There's a good write up in Wiki for Indian Peafowl and its appearances in Hindu stories under In culture. The first image is... drumroll...

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Shrew

Active Member
The peacock is also associated with Saraswati and Krishna.
I new that about Krishna and peacock feathers, but I always thought the vahana of Sarasvati was the swan.

By the way: Why do Krishna and Radha have no vahanas? Or do they have any?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Saraswati's vahana is the swan, but in most images there is a peacock also. The Wiki article for Saraswati says Sometimes a citramekhala (also called mayura, peacock) is shown beside the goddess. The peacock symbolizes colorful splendor, celebration of dance, and - as the devourer of snakes - the alchemical ability to transmute the serpent poison of self into the radiant plumage of enlightenment.[30]

Krishna is Vishnu, whose vahana is Garuda. Radha is Lakshmi. I've seen images of the goddesses riding on the vahanas of their "husbands". That is, Lakshmi on Garuda and Parvati on Nandi.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
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Yeah, Saraswati's vahana, traditionally, is a white swan (Hamsa). Of course, peacock is more colorful. Moreover, swans are not common in India.
(? is 'ṇ' as in Ravana).
Twelve names of Saraswati - Bharati, Saraswati, Sharada, Hamsvahini, Jaganmata, Vagishwari, Kaumari, Varadayini, Buddhidatri, Brahmacharini, Chandraghanta, Bhuvaneshwari. One who recites these twelve names thrice a day (Trisandhya - morning, mid-day, evening), Brahmarupa Saraswati, the Goddess of all learning, resides in the front portion of his tongue.
 
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