Music Creation with AI

[Secret Chief]

If you take Andy Warhol (I think he is unique in this):
In his 1960s studio – known as the Factory – he employed studio assistants to make his work for him. Warhol realised that he could increase the commercial productivity of his art more quickly by getting others involved in making it.

Not at all unique. Large pieces are often constructed using other people. You think the artist Antony Gormley made this himself? Of course not, it was made by Hartlepool Steel Fabrications Ltd.
- Angel of the North - Wikipedia

 

[Nimos]

Not at all unique. Large pieces are often constructed using other people. You think the artist Antony Gormley made this himself? Of course not, it was made by Hartlepool Steel Fabrications Ltd.
- Angel of the North - Wikipedia

I think the discussion is important to have about AI, but the arguments against it need to be stronger I think. Because of what art is, anyone can call themselves an artist. Both of us might think what they make sucks, but that doesn't change that in a technical sense they are still an artist, simply because that is how art works even before AI came along.

But also everyone copies from each other or gets inspiration, people go to schools to learn how to copy other people's works and techniques etc. I used to study classical drawing and was also taught how to draw in the same style as Leonardo etc. This is common if you study drawing, it's not like they throw a pencil in your face and tell you to figure it out on your own. This is common for all things, first, you learn what others have achieved before you and from that knowledge, you create your own style.

But the moment an AI is taught how to do it and "easily" replicate it, then it is just bad because it's an AI, and then it is cheating, stealing and all kinds of stuff, despite it doesn't copy/paste things in the sense that it just takes a drum from one song and mix it with a guitar from another and then it is a new song. That is not how it works.

 

[Nimos]

That's the thing about it that bothers me

It can pass stuff off as human which I think is nothing short of fraudulent

Maybe the future involves a mergure of human and computer

I hope that never happens

In a sense that is already what is going on, hearing aids, pacemakers etc. Mobile phones where you are constantly hooked up to the internet etc. the step to biological integration doesn't seem all that far-fetched in my opinion.

I think it will happen, it is just a matter of time.

 

[PureX]

Hey ya'll, ...

I came across this interview yesterday and I was very impressed by the depth of information regarding AI and music, the arts, and culture in general. And it wastes no time getting right into it (which I appreciate). They start out discussing AI in music production, then move on to how commercial music production and distribution has change in part because of AI (and because of corporate greed, of course). And then they discuss cultural trends and changes in general and how to see them coming.

This is not a rant against capitalism (as it would be if I were being interviewed). But it is a very succinct discussion about what is actually happening in the music, film, and literature world as it relates to AI, corporate trends, and the real content creators vs the culture-sellers. I don't usually post videos like this, but this one was exceptionally informative if you're at all interested in this whole general subject.

Even just the first 7 minutes are very informative.

 

[Nimos]

Just some fun.

The first one is a Dune-inspired song, thought it would be fun to try to see if I could make the lyrics as if it was "Dune" language (fictional ) think it turned out pretty good as a no-stress song.

This one I just wanted to try to create some Grunge/Heavy style music.

 

[MJ Bailey]

Actually love AI music without vocalizations. Creepy with

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm loving the inhuman trash I'm creating! Certainly better than the **** peddled on Eurovision.
Each to their own.

Yeah I have to admit that. Particularly the Eurovision part is what did it for me.

The turning point was watching this ..... winning Eurovision. Watch at own risk. You have been warned.

 

[Nimos]

Actually love AI music without vocalizations. Creepy with

I don't think I could tell the difference to be honest. The moment you are asked about it, or are told that the song is AI I would attention, but if someone just linked a song without indicating that it was AI made, I don't think I would spot it.

As others have pointed out in this thread, there is a lot of bad human music. And if the purpose of the listener is to listen to music they enjoy, then does it really matter who/what created it?

I could see it from a musician's point of view, where they really go into all the details, that they don't feel it is real enough.

But you can now easily split the songs you create into vocals and instruments, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people that makes music would use this and then edit the things in whatever software they use and then put there name on it.

So it's a weird balance between how much of a song a musician can get away with before being able to take credit for having created it? A lot of music today is created through samplings anyway.

 

[Nimos]

Yeah I have to admit that. Particularly the Eurovision part is what did it for me.

The turning point was watching this ..... winning Eurovision. Watch at own risk. You have been warned.

Agree, remember watching this song from the last one, it is crazy how bad it is.

I don't give any credit for it being human-made if that is what it turns out to be, I wouldn't listen to anything like this.

 

[MJ Bailey]

Love TeChNo music, how ever AI needs to remember its old joke; "play who do you love"; "well I used to love a white noise machine". TY

 

[Father Heathen]

Here's some of mine: Daring_Dragoon | Suno

I wrote the lyrics (some of it is poetry from ~20 years ago) but the rest is AI generated.