Muslim woman & girl gang-raped and beaten by Hindus for eating beef

[Aupmanyav]

Latest on Haryana rapes

'Rapists Asked If I Eat Beef,' Alleges Haryana Woman. 'The attackers insisted that we eat beef,' the woman said. Haryana police have rubbished her claims, made 2 weeks after the assault. Haryana has recommended the case for a Central Bureau of Investigation probe.

Almost two weeks after two women were gang-raped in Mewat, one of them has alleged that the attackers asked her if she ate beef.

"They asked if we eat beef. We said we don't, but they insisted we did. Then they said we're hurting you before so you don't and that if we tell anyone we'll will be insulted," the woman said in presence of activist Shabnam Hashmi in Delhi. The police, however, maintain that neither the women nor their families had mentioned these allegations earlier. Senior police officers say so far, no link to cow vigilante groups have emerged.

The 20-year-old woman and her 14-year-old cousin were sexually assaulted by several men in their home in Mewat on the August 24. Their uncle and aunt were tied up and then beaten to death. The Haryana police had arrested four men in their 30s from the village and initially booked them for rape and trespass. Murder charges were added only when the locals protested.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/they-asked-do-you-eat-beef-says-gangraped-haryana-woman-1457258

Mewat Gangrape – ‘Beefing’ Up a Conspiracy - The other side of the coin.

The gang rape and robbery case in Mewat has taken ugly turns in the last week, when post the visit of professional social activist Shabnam Hashmi, the victims suddenly started claiming that the assailants told them that they were being raped for eating beef.

Surprisingly, the victims never said this while filing an FIR, and the initial news reports do not carry any statements even hinting at beef consumption being the motive behind this gory crime which occurred around midnight on 24 Aug.
https://www.hindupost.in/news/mewat-gangrape-beefing-conspiracy/

My view: Murder, robbery and rape did take place, but beef eating allegation has been added later. Four of the five people have been arrested. The law will take its own course. I am a bit surprised. The area has Muslim majority (75%) and is hugely crime prone. Normally, Mewat Muslims gangs commit criminal acts in the area and even in Delhi. How come, this time, it were Hindus?

 

[Aupmanyav]

But what motivate the Hindus to kill a Muslim for eating beef, this make them much worse than Saudi Arabia in imposing hijab on all women regardless of their beliefs, at least in Saudi Arabia they won't kill them for not wearing hijab.

This is a barbaric act which is supported by the Hindus which makes eating beef as a crime, man-made or evil-made makes no difference to me as it pollutes the whole religion
once its followers in general are following such silly thing. Making excuses for it making no sense as well, wrong is wrong and such stupid things should be ended, I wonder how some defend Hinduism and blame the evil.

Raping and killing for eating beef and then the one who did it wasn't a true Hindus.

In an area where eating beef is prohibited by law and is severely resented by one section of the society, it is a sort of insult to Hindus who do not eat beef. No it is not supported by majority of Hindus. The correct thing in such a case is to report to police and food department. We do not want people to take law in their hands. It may be a silly thing elsewhere, but it is not so in India and the beef-eaters know that. In many places there is no bar on buffalo meat eating. Why is it so important to kill cows? Just to spite Hindus? Yes, rape more than murder or robbery is a very unHindu act.

I'm not just speaking about rape, but about punishing people for eating beef, it isn't only a one case, just search and see how many crimes were committed for eating beef.

If it is prohibited by law made by a majority of representatives of people in that state, then sure, it is a crime. The question is knowing that it is not permissible, why do people do that?

I just imagine rate of women raped in non-Muslim countries vs women raped in Muslim countries.
I bet non-Muslim countries will be more by far percentage.

Ah sure. You have the Syria/Iraq example. And how far you can believe the Pakistan statistics on rape?

 

[Aupmanyav]

As for specific rape stats. I don't have that info at hand, but the data I posted includes rape as part of a bigger problem.

As I have already mentioned, rape is a problem in India. and has increased greatly in recent times. Globally, we are still not in the red zone. (Img from Wikipedia)

 

[Godobeyer]

As I have already mentioned, rape is a problem in India. and has increased greatly in recent times. Globally, we are still not in the red zone. (Img from Wikipedia)

I don't know if this map is telling truth.

I very doubt about my country Algeria and Oman and Kuwiet and Jordan Emirates rate in map.

 

[Augustus]

How many porn stars they have compared to yours

I live in the 'Muslim world'. Porn is illegal, but there are certainly a lot of consumers of pornography. Ditto prostitution.

I used to live in Amsterdam and there is more prostitution here than there.

 

[FearGod]

I live in the 'Muslim world'. Porn is illegal, but there are certainly a lot of consumers of pornography. Ditto prostitution.

I used to live in Amsterdam and there is more prostitution here than there.

How do you know the illegal number of prostitutes here and there? do you have such great
experience with them or you used to go to the brothels and hence you know more than us about it?

 

[Augustus]

How do you know the illegal number of prostitutes here and there? do you have such great
experience with them or you used to go to the brothels and hence you know more than us about it?

They aren't hidden. It's no secret.

Amazingly, if you live somewhere, you can see things which are visible.

 

[FearGod]

They aren't hidden. It's no secret.

Amazingly, if you live somewhere, you can see things which are visible.

Illegal and visible, maybe to you only, no need to be a shame for it.
How many illegal brothels did you visit in the Muslim world?

 

[Augustus]

Illegal and visible, maybe to you only, no need to be a shame for it.
How many illegal brothels did you visit in the Muslim world?

Good grief. How old are you? 12?

They actually have signs in the street saying things like 'executive karaoke'.

Just because your claims about the 'superior sexual morals' of your coreligionists turns out not to really stand up to any level of scrutiny, you go into playground mode. To be fair, they do close down for ramadhan though, it's even in the newspapers.

Do you understand the concept of corruption? You know, when people pay money to be able to do illegal things without fear of punishment.

Take a look at lists of the most corrupt countries in the world and see if you can notice any 'patterns'.

I know you hate the West, but no need to be blind to what happens in other places.

 

[FearGod]

Good grief. How old are you? 12?

They actually have signs in the street saying things like 'executive karaoke'.

Just because your claims about the 'superior sexual morals' of your coreligionists turns out not to really stand up to any level of scrutiny, you go into playground mode. To be fair, they do close down for ramadhan though, it's even in the newspapers.

Do you understand the concept of corruption? You know, when people pay money to be able to do illegal things without fear of punishment.

Take a look at lists of the most corrupt countries in the world and see if you can notice any 'patterns'.

I know you hate the West, but no need to be blind to what happens in other places.

These places aren't illegal in Indonesia, you have to know that there are other than Muslims
living in Indonesia, also you can see similar things in Turkey but still the Muslim world is
much much much more better than the rest of the world in terms of morality.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Shabnam Hashmi is the sister of Safdar Hashmi, a communist activist, who used to perform street plays inconvenient to the then ruling party, Rajiv Gandhi's Congress. So now, his sister has taken up the cudgels. Truth does not matter to these people, unrest does. They get foreign funding if they can create unrest (even from US). Ford Foundation gave a huge grant to the current Chief Minister of Delhi, though his regime is tottering now.

"On 1 January 1989, the JANAM troupe began a performance of the street play Halla Bol (Attack!), during the Ghaziabad municipal elections in Sahibabad's Jhandapur village (near Delhi). During the performance, the troupe was attacked by political hoodlums of the Indian National Congress. Hashmi was fatally injured and died the following day. Fourteen years after the incident, a Ghaziabad court convicted ten people, including Congress Party member Mukesh Sharma, for the murder."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safdar_Hashmi#Career_and_activism

Illegal and visible, maybe to you only, no need to be a shame for it. How many illegal brothels did you visit in the Muslim world?

Dubai is a fine example, illegal but omnipresent.

I don't know if this map is telling truth. I very doubt about my country Algeria and Oman and Kuwiet and Jordan Emirates rate in map.

Well, I did not prepare this map.

One thing people miss when they say 'a rape every 30 minutes in India' that the country suffered dynastic rule (Nehru/Indira Gandhi) for 55 years out of 69 years of its independence. The population of India is 1.271 billion, and the states are ruled by different parties, including two by communists. Five states still have dynasties of which two are ruling. Things keep happening somewhere or the other.​

 

[Madhuri]

I don't know, you blame that poorness and difficulty of life is what cause people to rape and to
be bad and so the problem is because of India and not Hinduism.

Exactly.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Laws were flouted with impunity during the dynasty rule. No one cared if cows were killed as long as it got Muslim vote for the dynasty. Now the dynasty has been decimated. The rules which were already instituted are being applied. That is creating the problem.

Very soon, Indian government is going to tell Supreme Court that it has no objection to removal of 'triple talaq', and that civil laws should apply even to Muslim marriages, thus barring marriage of girls under the age of 18. That too is going to create a 'hullaboo'. Muslim personal laws cannot be allowed to drag India to middle ages.

Government set to oppose triple talaq in response to Supreme Court notice

Centre is likely to bat against triple talaq in response to the SC notice on the issue.
Government is also likely to argue that many Islamic nations have either banned or restricted these practices.
Several individuals and NGOs have sought a ban on the practices of triple talaq and polygamy.

NEW DELHI: The Centre is likely to bat against the practice of triple talaq and in favour of women's rights in response to the Supreme Court notice on the issue. An inter-ministerial committee met on Wednesday to fashion a response to the court's notice on the clutch of public interest litigations filed by several Muslim women.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...Supreme-Court-notice/articleshow/54338240.cms

92% of Muslim women in India want oral triple talaq to go: Study
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...le-talaq-to-go-Study/articleshow/48565408.cms

 

[Milton Platt]

What is worse, eating beef or that appalling behaviour i refuse to type up? Those Hindus had lust in their thoughts, not for India's beautiful cows.

Nonetheless, the acts were committed because she ate beef......

 

[Madhuri]

Nonetheless, the acts were committed because she ate beef......

That was the apparent excuse...a person who would commit the crime of rape and violence will find whatever excuse they want. Doing this to people who eat beef is not a Hindu/Indian norm.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Nonetheless, the acts were committed because she ate beef......

There are reports that beef-eating as a reason was a added 15 days later.

 

[Aupmanyav]

What is worse, eating beef or that appalling behaviour i refuse to type up? Those Hindus had lust in their thoughts, not for India's beautiful cows.

Both are evil. Of course, rape is one of the worst sins in Hinduism. Most people, Hindus or Muslims, will say that it deserves death penalty. Cow-slaughter is legal in eight out of 29 states in India. In others the punishment ranges from six-month jail to 10 years (Jammu & Kashmir). In addition, there can be a fine of Rupees 1000 (USD 15) to Rupees 50,000 (USD 750 - Gujarat). In Jammu & Kashmir, the fine can be five times the price of slaughtered animal. I do not know for sure but this could be above Rupees 200,000 (USD 3,000).

 

[Aupmanyav]

If the criminals were Muslims, the media and people would switch the name to terrorism.

It is really strange that the incident did not provoke a communal riot. Nuh, very close to Delhi, really next door, where this happened is a Muslim majority district, and the perpetrators were Hindus. As I mentioned four of the five have already been arrested and I am sure police will arest the fifth one also. It will certainly not be considered terrorism but a inter-community crime.